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Willy Outlaw

Joined: 01 Feb 2004 Posts: 159 City: Montreal
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Posted: Jun 04, 2007 3:49 am Post subject: Ding... Ouch!... F**K! |
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What do you figure this is gonna cost? Notice also the rudder.

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Broccoli B Wakeboarder.com Freak


Joined: 12 Jul 2003 Posts: 2670 City: Grand Rapids
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Posted: Jun 04, 2007 4:12 am Post subject: |
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$1500
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Hollywood PityDaFool Who Posts This Much


Joined: 01 Oct 2003 Posts: 5601 City: Door Knob
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Posted: Jun 04, 2007 6:16 am Post subject: |
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God I love these pics. I'd put you closer to $1000
New prop = $350
Rudder = $350
3-4 hrs. shop labor = $300 (Rudder and packing install, alignment check, prop install)
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Willy Outlaw

Joined: 01 Feb 2004 Posts: 159 City: Montreal
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Posted: Jun 04, 2007 6:36 am Post subject: |
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| I feel better already. Looks like there is no need for an insurance claim. Will keep you all posted.
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K-dub Ladies Man

Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 14760
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Posted: Jun 04, 2007 7:34 am Post subject: |
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I'd take a close look at the glass around the rudder box.
If it took a hit hard enough to bend it back like that, there are more than likely some stress fractures in the glass/gel around that area as well.
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oshensurfer PityDaFool Who Posts This Much


Joined: 14 Aug 2003 Posts: 6325
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Posted: Jun 04, 2007 8:21 am Post subject: |
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K-dub is right on. I paid around $3k for damage just a bit worse than that 4 years ago. Be sure they check the shaft and strut alignment.
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K-dub Ladies Man

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Posted: Jun 04, 2007 8:43 am Post subject: |
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| oshensurfer wrote: | | K-dub is right on. I paid around $3k for damage just a bit worse than that 4 years ago. Be sure they check the shaft and strut alignment. |
On that note, and a bit more on what I posted....
If you took a hit hard enough to the rudder, i'd be looking at the glass around the strut also......how are the skegs?
Can't see them in the pic.
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Willy Outlaw

Joined: 01 Feb 2004 Posts: 159 City: Montreal
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Posted: Jun 04, 2007 8:45 am Post subject: |
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| I can turn the shaft freely by hand, which I hope means that it is unhurt. No visible cracks in the gelcoat, which I guess would mean no damage in that area?
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Willy Outlaw

Joined: 01 Feb 2004 Posts: 159 City: Montreal
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Posted: Jun 04, 2007 8:47 am Post subject: |
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| Skegs "look" OK. Doesn't seem that they hit the obstacle.
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K-dub Ladies Man

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Posted: Jun 04, 2007 9:02 am Post subject: |
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| Willy wrote: | | Skeg "looks" OK. |
not always the case though.
The shaft might spin freely, and appear straight to the naked eye and could still be bent slightly.
I'd have it checked out by a pro for sure.
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K-dub Ladies Man

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Posted: Jun 04, 2007 9:03 am Post subject: |
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oops.....I quoted the wrong post.....
I was responding to the first of the last 2 posts you made, Willy.
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Mackr0s Criminal


Joined: 14 Sep 2005 Posts: 84 City: Plano, TX
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Posted: Jun 04, 2007 12:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Have any cracks in the fiberglass/gelcloat? Check closely at where the rudder meet the hull.
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K-dub Ladies Man

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Posted: Jun 04, 2007 3:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Willy wrote: | | No visible cracks in the gelcoat, which I guess would mean no damage in that area? |
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TP83 Addict

Joined: 31 May 2006 Posts: 739 City: Woodside
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Posted: Jun 04, 2007 5:24 pm Post subject: |
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| ouch, doesnt take much to bend a brass prop but damn that thing is messed up. not to say that i dont believe you but you should take it in to get it check out just because of the driveshaft doesnt need to look bent but if its got the slightest bend it will mess up everything in the boat, like wear parts down. We did that one time and the boat vibrated like a mofo till we changed the prop and it worked fine for the rest of the trip.
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Joined: 03 Dec 2006 Posts: 496
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Posted: Jun 04, 2007 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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wow. what did you hit. and at how fast
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Mr. Mike Newbie

Joined: 16 May 2005 Posts: 37 City: Kelowna
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Posted: Jun 04, 2007 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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That strut and rudder is made by a company called Marine Hardware. I know becuase I've had to replace them on my boat. Just call them up and order direct. They'll just need the casting numbers from the parts.. I can't remember the guys name but he gave me a big discount off the retail price list.
http://www.marinehardware.com/catalogorderform.html
Oh, and www.boarditup.com probably has that prop for $309 - 349.
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JoeyJojo Addict


Joined: 08 Aug 2003 Posts: 754 City: Central Mississippi
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Posted: Jun 05, 2007 6:08 pm Post subject: |
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did the same to my boat. snick it into forward (prop off) and watch the divet in the middle of the pin. if it doesn't move, (remains a dot not a circle) you are good. don't leave it in forward but for just a sec, the packing and rubber bushing will get too hot. hopefully that nibral prop saved the shaft. as far as the rudder goes, i took a hydraulic jack, wedged it horizontally with a board and a concrete wall, and jacked it back forward.
that is for a quick fix. i would highly recommend you take it to the shop. it actually threw off the tolerances between my motor and tranny and had to be adjusted.
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WakeBoarder44 Wakeboarder.Commie


Joined: 21 Apr 2004 Posts: 1107
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Posted: Jun 06, 2007 12:56 am Post subject: |
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what did you hit?!
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Willy Outlaw

Joined: 01 Feb 2004 Posts: 159 City: Montreal
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Posted: Jun 06, 2007 7:27 am Post subject: |
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UPDATE : Brought the boat to the dealer. SO far he's had a quick look. Looks like this is going to be an insurance claim. The prop, the shaft, the shaft support and the rudder all need to be replaced. They can probably be straigntened or refurbished, but I don't want to go there, for many reasons including resale value. Luckily it seems that the fiberglass and gelcoat are OK.
Subject to a more detailed evaluation, total damage including labour and tax (which is 15% in this province) will be around 3,500$-4,000$ CAN (at today's rates, it's about 3,300$ to 3,800$ US).
For those who asked, there is a huge submerged rock in one area of our lake. It is about 16" below water level. When I hit I was pulling a rider, so I was going about 22 MPH.
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Hollywood PityDaFool Who Posts This Much


Joined: 01 Oct 2003 Posts: 5601 City: Door Knob
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Posted: Jun 06, 2007 8:19 am Post subject: |
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Willy, you can't tell if a shaft needs to be replaced just by "looking" at it. You need to check the alignment, and if you can't get it right pull it and measure again. It is possible to straighten a shaft but it usually doesn't come out perfect. I have a hard time believing your strut needs to be replaced as well. Either way, it's not $$$ out of your pocket, so why not get all new gear. That price still looks high for a little R&R of some brass parts.
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