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 Posted: Mar 07, 2007 5:05 pm Post subject: backroll |
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| i ride behind an outboard motor nd i was wonderin if u think i would be able to pull off a backroll |
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| Posted: Mar 07, 2007 5:34 pm Post subject: |
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Yep, very possible. Not easy, but if you get the basic wake jumps, 180s, 3s, and such. After these the backroll should be no problem.  |
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| Posted: Mar 08, 2007 6:14 am Post subject: |
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If you think your wake is too small, look up "air backrolls". There are lots of folks on this board that can do backrolls in the flats, without a wake at all.
In "The Book - Inverts" they use a air R2R as a training tool to learn the backroll. |
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devon
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| Posted: Mar 08, 2007 7:28 am Post subject: |
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R2R?
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| Posted: Mar 08, 2007 7:30 am Post subject: |
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roll to revert
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| buckthis wrote: | | And another reason wakeboarding is better than surfing, you die less, that means you have another day to wakeboard, which is more fun than surfing anyway. |
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devon
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| Posted: Mar 08, 2007 7:30 am Post subject: |
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why is an inboard better than an outboard?
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LakeIolaLuke
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| Posted: Mar 08, 2007 7:38 am Post subject: |
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because they don't put outboard on wakeboarding boats. It's not that the engine itself is better, actually an outboard could benefit a wakeboarding boat because you can adjust the trim and push the back of the boat down further. In general though, outboard-equipped boats aren't well suited to wakeboarding
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| buckthis wrote: | | And another reason wakeboarding is better than surfing, you die less, that means you have another day to wakeboard, which is more fun than surfing anyway. |
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Atrain
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| Posted: Mar 08, 2007 1:29 pm Post subject: |
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| if the wake doesnt seem quite big enough put your trim up and see if that makes it better |
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liqu1dforc3
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| Posted: Mar 08, 2007 2:48 pm Post subject: |
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| thnx i gonna have to try it out |
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nickl011
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| Posted: Mar 08, 2007 5:01 pm Post subject: |
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| LakeIolaLuke wrote: | | because they don't put outboard on wakeboarding boats. It's not that the engine itself is better, actually an outboard could benefit a wakeboarding boat because you can adjust the trim and push the back of the boat down further. In general though, outboard-equipped boats aren't well suited to wakeboarding |
Also, outboards are a heck of a lot lighter than inboards
Think about it, An out board is a small stroke motor, placed on the drive. Where and inboard has a car motor, usually a v8, with some times a transfercase if it is a V drive, and the tranny, prop and rutter
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devon
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| Posted: Mar 09, 2007 6:38 am Post subject: |
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so should i put a ballast bag in the boat to make the wake bigger
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nickl011
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| Posted: Mar 09, 2007 8:58 am Post subject: |
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good idea, or get a couple of your big buddies to come in the boat
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| Posted: Mar 09, 2007 12:24 pm Post subject: |
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| LFPIMP wrote: |
Think about it, An out board is a small stroke motor, placed on the drive. Where and inboard has a car motor, usually a v8, with some times a transfercase if it is a V drive, and the tranny, prop and rutter |
What's a "rutter"?
Also, I am not sure what "small stroke" has to do with anything.
Bigger weight does mean bigger wake though. |
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nickl011
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| Posted: Mar 09, 2007 12:57 pm Post subject: |
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abrider, the rutter is the steering mechanism on inboard boats. as far as smaller stroke, this means the block is smaller.
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abrider
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| Posted: Mar 09, 2007 1:45 pm Post subject: |
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| LFPIMP wrote: | | abrider, the rutter is the steering mechanism on inboard boats. as far as smaller stroke, this means the block is smaller. |
oh, you mean rudder.
As for small stroke=small block, not necessarily, for constant displacement, the stroke and bore are both factors, although I understand that smaller stroke usually means smaller blocks. Smaller strokes mean lower piston velocity and so for a given horsepower, higher piston force. This can wear out the linkages. Larger strokes can be designed to give bigger moment arms on the linkages connected to the driveshafts and thus higher torques at the load. |
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| Posted: Mar 09, 2007 1:59 pm Post subject: |
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abrider, yup, sorry about the spelling
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| Posted: Mar 09, 2007 2:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Back to watching "the Book" and dreaming of the summer...still have solid ice on the lake in ab. |
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