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JTRebel Outlaw

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B_Fool Soul Rider

Joined: 15 Aug 2004 Posts: 373 City: Cen FLA
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Posted: Sep 22, 2006 6:03 am Post subject: |
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How does it suck for CWB when he was a Mastercraft employee and only a contracted TM for dub?
Fail to see how it sucks.
Made me throw up in my mouth a bit when I read it. People like that need to be put on an island with a bunch of killer bees. I feel bad for the team guys who will be teased non stop.
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jumalian Ladies Man

Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 7625 City: san diego
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Posted: Sep 22, 2006 6:13 am Post subject: |
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| B_Fool wrote: | | How does it suck for CWB when he was a Mastercraft employee and only a contracted TM for dub? |
| B_Fool wrote: | | I feel bad for the team guys who will be teased non stop. |
that's exactly why it sucks for cwb. it's not their fault, but they'll still get a bad rap for doyle's actions.
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mrb01tj Criminal


Joined: 10 Jul 2006 Posts: 82 City: ft. myers
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Posted: Sep 22, 2006 6:15 am Post subject: |
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wow, i was going to send my 9 yo to a camp next year. maybe not now.
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devon Wakeboarder.Commie

Joined: 20 Sep 2006 Posts: 1367 City: Ottawa
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Posted: Sep 22, 2006 8:02 am Post subject: |
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what a sick bastard
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NorthwestRider Wakeboarder.Commie

Joined: 24 Aug 2004 Posts: 1175 City: Puyallup, WA
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Robert Harp Guest
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Posted: Sep 22, 2006 8:23 am Post subject: |
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| OMG I REMEMBER SEEING THAT GUY IN THE INTLEAGUE book thing! holy crap.
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Watarski Soul Rider


Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 289 City: Panama City Beach
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Posted: Sep 22, 2006 8:41 am Post subject: |
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| That's crazy. The CWB guys will definitely be asked questions for this...
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chavez Ladies Man


Joined: 22 Sep 2003 Posts: 27375 City: Roseville
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Posted: Sep 22, 2006 9:02 am Post subject: |
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jumalian, bad rap for what? I can see the argument for the JR team guys, but I can only hope that people will not attempt to make fun here - this is sickening, not funny.
Sex offenders are everywhere. Noone at CWB knew about this. People who knew Doyle well are completely stunned.
It seems you can't trust anyone nowadays. Reality bites.
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ontrider Ladies Man


Joined: 30 Jul 2003 Posts: 16491 City: Russia
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Posted: Sep 22, 2006 9:04 am Post subject: |
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| What a prick... hope he has fun in jail.
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jt09 Ladies Man


Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Posts: 22083 City: Austin
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Posted: Sep 22, 2006 9:54 am Post subject: |
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| Wow. I totally ignored that story in the paper this morning b/c I had no idea the connection. That's f*ed up on manny levels.
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K-dub Ladies Man

Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 14760
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Posted: Sep 22, 2006 11:02 am Post subject: |
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Jesus....
what's up with guys named Bill, and underage boys lately?
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ontrider Ladies Man


Joined: 30 Jul 2003 Posts: 16491 City: Russia
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Posted: Sep 22, 2006 11:09 am Post subject: |
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K-dub,
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jlaws Addict


Joined: 16 Sep 2006 Posts: 832 City: NC
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Posted: Sep 22, 2006 11:58 am Post subject: |
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| eww thats wrong on so many l evels
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alafiaboarder Wakeboarder.Commie


Joined: 03 Oct 2003 Posts: 1208 City: Gaines Hell
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Posted: Sep 22, 2006 12:36 pm Post subject: |
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well isnt that nice... using the sport to get more victims... haha GO LIQUID RONIX and HYPER ONE
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chavez Ladies Man


Joined: 22 Sep 2003 Posts: 27375 City: Roseville
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Posted: Sep 22, 2006 12:39 pm Post subject: |
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alafiaboarder, there is no "haha" here. This is really serious stuff. We have no idea how many kids this guy may have taken advantage of.
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K-dub Ladies Man

Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 14760
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Posted: Sep 22, 2006 12:54 pm Post subject: |
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| ....last I heard they don't like child molesters and ex-cops in the joint too much.
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jumalian Ladies Man

Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 7625 City: san diego
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Posted: Sep 22, 2006 12:57 pm Post subject: |
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| chavez wrote: | | jumalian, bad rap for what? I can see the argument for the JR team guys, but I can only hope that people will not attempt to make fun here - this is sickening, not funny. |
seriously, i know you're not that slow.
no matter how innocent cwb was in hiring or having doyle lead the jr. team, they'll still look bad in some people's eyes. i'm not saying it's right at all, but we all know it happens.
and who are you kidding? had it been someone from hype, ronix, or lf that's facing child sex charges, you'd be firing the jokes away.
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Blake Wakeboarder.com Freak

Joined: 27 Jun 2005 Posts: 2794 City: Seattle
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Posted: Sep 22, 2006 1:05 pm Post subject: |
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and who are you kidding? had it been someone from hype, ronix, or lf that's facing child sex charges, you'd be firing the jokes away. |
Maybe after some time went by, (a year or more), would someone crack a joke. However, this is a serious issue now, and no matter which company it came from, is just wrong.
CWB shouldnt have much blame in this. Its not as though he was convicted of this befor. Bill looked as though he was a clean guy from the outside.
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K-wood Kid Wakeboarder.Commie


Joined: 03 Jun 2005 Posts: 1531 City: Dallas
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Posted: Sep 22, 2006 1:14 pm Post subject: |
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I knew Bill from around the Texas tournaments and such. He seemed like a nice guy, but I never really talked to him because something just seemed askewed with him. I guess this is an attest to my intuative sense.
He doesn't have a contract with CWB or MC, just sub contracts.
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Blake Wakeboarder.com Freak

Joined: 27 Jun 2005 Posts: 2794 City: Seattle
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Posted: Sep 22, 2006 1:17 pm Post subject: |
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| K-wood Kid wrote: | | but I never really talked to him because something just seemed askewed with him. I guess this is an attest to my intuative sense. |
I wish all could have picked up on this!
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chavez Ladies Man


Joined: 22 Sep 2003 Posts: 27375 City: Roseville
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Posted: Sep 22, 2006 1:19 pm Post subject: |
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K-dub, oh he is done in jail.
jumalian, no freaking way I would be poking fun at anyone at this stage. This is horrid stuff, not a very funny thing at all. I don't care if I hate them with a passion, I am not going to sit here and make fun.
This won't affect CWB in a measurable way. Nobody other than the inner circles know who Bill Doyle is. You know as well as I do that the close community represents very very little of the overall market for these products.
I suppose by your logic this is really going to hurt MC, the INT League, Austin PD, amongst others.
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jumalian Ladies Man

Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 7625 City: san diego
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Posted: Sep 22, 2006 1:23 pm Post subject: |
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chavez, get off your high horse dude. if you don't think this is bad press for cwb, you need to get your head out of cwb's ass every now and then.
i'm not blaming cwb at all, but there will be peple that's quick to point fingers on companies that the accused is affiliated with. yes, including mc, int, etc. why do you think the article has quotes from austin pd and gordy holmes, denying any knowledge? because they know people are quick to put the accused w/ the company(ies) he works for.
i give up...i dont' think you'll ever understand what i'm saying. all you see is me attacking your beloved cwb, which i'm far from doing. *sigh*
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Blake Wakeboarder.com Freak

Joined: 27 Jun 2005 Posts: 2794 City: Seattle
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Posted: Sep 22, 2006 1:32 pm Post subject: |
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jumalian, bad press? I am pretty sure that 85% of buyers have no clue of this. Sure, pretty much everyone inside the market base will know, but that doesnt change much. I wouldnt go so far to say it gives CWB a black eye. Perhaps a bloody nose, as they are some what connected with this, but still very distant from the entire deal.
Again, Bill looked like a good passionate guy from outside. That is all anyone cared about! Its terrible that this had to happen, not for CWBs sake or MCs, but for the kids sake. Lets not put blame on companies that couldnt controll this. Lets just hope this guy gets what is coming to him in jail.
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chavez Ladies Man


Joined: 22 Sep 2003 Posts: 27375 City: Roseville
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Posted: Sep 22, 2006 2:05 pm Post subject: |
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jumalian, no dude, this is bad press for the fricking whole industry!!!!
The problem: A well respected person, in the industry, just got popped for being a child predator and is now going to be investigated to see if he molested any other kids along the way.
The result:
| mrb01tj wrote: | | wow, i was going to send my 9 yo to a camp next year. maybe not now. |
Seriously... who can you trust right now? How do you know?
The picture here is much, much bigger than any one brand/product. This is just flat out bad bad news for all. A very ugly cloud of doubt has just covered this entire part of the industry.
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goofyboy Wakeboarder.com Freak


Joined: 19 Jul 2004 Posts: 4463 City: Houston
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Posted: Sep 22, 2006 2:39 pm Post subject: |
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Very sad situation. He WAS a respected member of the community. They will take good care of him in Huntsville.
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pilot_ryder Wakeboarder.Commie


Joined: 15 Sep 2005 Posts: 1296 City: edmonton
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Posted: Sep 23, 2006 2:00 pm Post subject: |
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oh thats sorta gross
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QNev Wakeboarder.com Freak


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Posted: Sep 23, 2006 2:37 pm Post subject: |
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pilot_ryder, just sorta eh?
It's good they caught him. That's 1 less child offender out there.
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DRAGON88 Ladies Man


Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 8213 City: Portland, OR
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Posted: Sep 23, 2006 2:52 pm Post subject: |
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Chavez, what is your affiliation with CWB? Weren't you cracking Bill J jokes just the other week? I don't see how it would be a laughing matter, or joking matter whether it be today or 6 years from now it still sucks and the guy is still a creepy pedophile.
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Sinkoumn Wakeboarder.Commie


Joined: 26 Jun 2003 Posts: 1706 City: Side Lake, MN - Long Beach, CA
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Posted: Sep 23, 2006 2:54 pm Post subject: |
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"You'll be missing me when you have that big white wrinkly body on top of you with his loose skin and old balls... gross!"
-Sonny, Big Daddy
Now excuse me while I go vomit.
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kwoehler Newbie

Joined: 03 May 2006 Posts: 17 City: Lake of the Ozarks
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Posted: Sep 23, 2006 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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| im sorry, but i think its great that he's getting whats been coming for a long time. while he has always acted like an upstanding part of any community, especially wakeboarding, when things didn't go bill's way business wise, he was a jackass. cdub signed me for the 01 season, and then joe kelly never sent my contract for 02, even after being in contact with him several times. so i switched over to hyperlite, because gary morrison hooked me up. about a month after this, he was at a contest at table rock lake, MO, and saw me riding my hyperlite. the next week he called my house, and proceeded to yell at me so loud that my mom stopped my conversation to ask who the hell that was. he was that pissed because i didn't call him before switching companies, which i actually had, he just never answered, which i am glad for now after finding out what this guys REAL problem was. i just can't believe that good ol christian bill doyle is that messed up. i am extremely happy that this freak is out of the wakeboarding community for good it seems. take this how you want it, im not trying to start stuff, i just had to post this up after reading that article.
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chavez Ladies Man


Joined: 22 Sep 2003 Posts: 27375 City: Roseville
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Posted: Sep 23, 2006 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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Dragon - while it is never a laughing matter no matter who we are talking about, BillJ did not molest children AFAIK.
Like it or not, there is a difference between a child predator and someone who was too stupid to keep his hands off other guys.
kwoehler, very interesting.
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ontrider Ladies Man


Joined: 30 Jul 2003 Posts: 16491 City: Russia
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Posted: Sep 23, 2006 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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chavez, maybe not... but from first-hand stories I've heard he's not much better.
Very sad story overall. What I really couldn't believe is what I saw on another message board, people actually defending this guy and reserving judgement even though the papers apparently had quotes of him stating he did these things, not to mention all the crap he had apparently 'produced' that they found on his computer. This guy is sick.
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DRAGON88 Ladies Man


Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 8213 City: Portland, OR
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Posted: Sep 23, 2006 6:26 pm Post subject: |
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| chavez wrote: | Dragon - while it is never a laughing matter no matter who we are talking about, BillJ did not molest children AFAIK.
Like it or not, there is a difference between a child predator and someone who was too stupid to keep his hands off other guys.
kwoehler, very interesting. |
He definitely got in trouble for engaging with someone who was not of the age of consent...
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