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its alot harder at 70 feet!

 
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PostPosted: Sep 16, 2006 7:06 pm    Post subject: its alot harder at 70 feet! Reply with quote

i just got a new rope and the shortest i can come in with it is 70ft and with my old rope i rode at like 60ft. i know i was getting alot more air today(the first time riding at 70ft) but i am out of control in the air which i think is due to more line tension, how long do yall think it will be till i stop going outta control and being able to do some actual tricks

by the way, not knowing if it makes a difference i am going 22.5mph at 70ft. and i was going 22mph at 60ft. and the reason i got a new rope was cause the old one was ripping so we took it back and now i am stuck with the long one, but i think in the long run i am going to need it to be longer anyways...
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PostPosted: Sep 17, 2006 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

would help if i just reeled myself out to like 85 feet get used to landing those then go back to 70ft.?
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PostPosted: Sep 17, 2006 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you could do that, and i would suggest going at 23-25 mph
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PostPosted: Sep 17, 2006 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

okay i think i will practice that way for a at least a day

if you dont leave a post on this topic then go to the beginner spin or beginner invert topic and help me out there
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PostPosted: Sep 17, 2006 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Make some knots in the line?
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PostPosted: Sep 18, 2006 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

depends on the boat you ride behind just try and find the area where the wake is the cleanest and you're at a comfortable speed.. i ride at 70', 22mph as well thats a good spot to ride at for learnin stuff.. good luck bro
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PostPosted: Sep 19, 2006 10:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

QNev, the knots are always where the line breaks, it puts exess pressure on one point and weard through. I would recommend not tying any extra knots in your rope.
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PostPosted: Sep 19, 2006 12:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, longer isn't necessarily better on some boats. You just need to be at the part where the wake is cleanest and not mushy or anything. You can shorten the rope by just tying it off early....
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PostPosted: Sep 19, 2006 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ride where you are comfortable. Don't let the line dictate your distance. Tying knots into the line is a good idea but you have to know how to do it right.
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PostPosted: Sep 19, 2006 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a way to retie the rope w/o knots,
do a search, one is the clove hitch
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PostPosted: Sep 19, 2006 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah i dont think i will tie the knots in my rope because i dont wanna mess it up, but will having this length help me in the long run since i will have more time to do tricks(hopefully someday) because i will have longer air time
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PostPosted: Sep 19, 2006 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think a longer rope gives you more airtime....but i could be wrong.
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PostPosted: Sep 20, 2006 11:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Justin 25, you are wrong...

Technically it doesn't give it to you but it puts it out there for the taking....

Ride with the longest rope you can ride with for the boat, wake combo you have.
The longer the rope the more air time you can generate.

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PostPosted: Sep 20, 2006 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

J_DOGG, that's true when you get to that level. But when learning it's better to ride a length that's managable until you get there. When you get comfortable at that length and are working on progressing and getting bigger air you can use the next loop in the line.

jakenj, if you ride this length a lot learn how to tie a knot in the line correctly so it doesn't slip. It won't hurt anything if you do it right.

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PostPosted: Sep 20, 2006 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

okay thanks j dogg and wakebrad i cant wait till i get to go out again (hopefully tomorrow but probaly saturday) what stinks is that the season is coming to a close, when do yall usally quit riding for the season like october or what
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PostPosted: Oct 02, 2006 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i ride 70 ft normally. i used to ride 75 but it was too hard to clear the wake. i could, but i wasnt consistant.
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PostPosted: Oct 04, 2006 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

d22 wrote:
i ride 70 ft normally. i used to ride 75 but it was too hard to clear the wake. i could, but i wasnt consistant.


For a longer rope u need to edge in faster to clear both wakes n it's more likely for you to flatten your board b4 hitting the wake. That's why you are not consistant on clearing the wake w/ a 75 ft rope.
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PostPosted: Oct 04, 2006 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Oct 06, 2006 11:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Longer line allows you to setup longer on your cuts in and prepare for your trick. I really enjoy riding longer and personally enjoy the extra air time due to the distance travelled. You may need to speed up a little to make use of that longer line. You should not feel like your sinking when cutting into the wake, you should be acelerating.

Longer lines are the best behind a boat with a generally narrow beam and a lot of weight. 75ft behind my wakesetter the wake is almost the same distance as my buddies super air at 85ft.

Now behind my old 1989 sunsetter we ran around 70 ft because we couldnt keep enough weight in the boat to get a good wake and still get on plane.

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PostPosted: Oct 06, 2006 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

okay thanks
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PostPosted: Oct 10, 2006 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ride at what is comfordable for you
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PostPosted: Oct 10, 2006 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well what sucks is that i posted this like 3 weeks ago, hoping that i could learn something then go out on the water, but the only problem is that i havent been on the water and i think thursday might be my last chance
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PostPosted: Feb 04, 2007 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just tie a bowline knot at 60 feet they are easy to get out or a double bowline knot

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