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Gaignstar Soul Rider


Joined: 29 Sep 2003 Posts: 468
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Posted: Jul 21, 2006 5:48 am Post subject: TS front flip (roll) LAND IT ! |
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I have trouble in the landing, I always slips on my ass. I'm trying to land on my toes but I always land flat or on my heels. I get huge pop and I always land way into the flat.
instead of Ts front flip, I do Ts balls slap.
riding at 24 mph with 75' _________________ if you don't fall, that's cause you don't try
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goinbig143 Addict

Joined: 20 Feb 2005 Posts: 659 City: Wonder lake
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Posted: Jul 21, 2006 6:03 am Post subject: |
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I have been working on those myself, and I have the same problem... I land on my heels with no chance of getting on my toeside edge.
The last time I went out, I finally rode with someone who can land these consistantly and I was able to see what I was doing wrong.
He would hold the handle with both hands for the first half of his rotation, and on the second half he would let go with his back hand and poke the handle WAY out behind his back. I guess you really have to exaggerate the handle position to land on edge. |
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jpminter Wakeboarder.Commie


Joined: 28 Jun 2005 Posts: 1259 City: Richmond, VA
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Posted: Jul 21, 2006 6:17 am Post subject: |
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| Don't you mean ts front roll? |
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Mike McLin Newbie

Joined: 19 Jul 2006 Posts: 33 City: Clermont
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Posted: Jul 22, 2006 4:40 am Post subject: |
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It sounds like you guys are talking about front ROLLS, not FLIPS. Remember, in wakeboarding a front flip (either heelside or toeside) is when you rotate sidewayz like a cartwheel. Your board is actually doing a front flip nose to tail (and your body is doing a cartwheel, like I just said).
A front ROLL, is when you do what would be a "front flip" in gymnastics (or anywhere else in the world).
This is confusing to a lot of people. I am not sure why it is named that way, but it is. |
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toothpick Wakeboarder.Commie


Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 1218 City: Clermont
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Posted: Jul 22, 2006 12:38 pm Post subject: |
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Since it seems to be a front roll you are trying, here are a couple pointers I focus on with that move:
- Really get your hips up and stand tall at the wake.
- Wait longer than you think you should to start rotating the flip, you should be well off the wake before tucking your head.
- Stay tucked until you can spot your landing. It's an easy flip to slow down, if you open up too soon, you'll almost always skip out on your butt.
- Grab it!  |
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Gaignstar Soul Rider


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Posted: Jul 24, 2006 6:14 am Post subject: |
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toothpick, | Quote: |
Stay tucked until you can spot your landing
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yeah, I think that's my problem
goinbig143, I'll try that too.
Mike McLin, roll or flip name, I just want to land it. thanks for the advice.
I'm confuse with the backROLL now  _________________ if you don't fall, that's cause you don't try |
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Robert Harp Guest
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Posted: Jul 24, 2006 8:39 am Post subject: |
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| Mike McLin, that makes no sense... a back roll is a flip? dude you helped make 'the book" or whatever, is "the book" this confusing? |
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emmz Newbie

Joined: 18 Jun 2006 Posts: 6 City: London
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Posted: Jul 24, 2006 11:24 am Post subject: |
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| how do you get the pop on the ts front roll? i just cant get it? and my toeside jumps are better than my hs jumps. i get more height and land way further into the flats. so why cant i get the pop for the front roll? do i need to come off of my front foot or my back foot? |
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Gaignstar Soul Rider


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Posted: Jul 25, 2006 6:40 am Post subject: |
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emmz, I cut all the way up, stand tall and wait for the pop. I never even came close to land in the wake. Same for scarecrow.
I'll try to make some footage next time and I'll post it _________________ if you don't fall, that's cause you don't try |
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emmz Newbie

Joined: 18 Jun 2006 Posts: 6 City: London
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Posted: Jul 26, 2006 3:23 pm Post subject: |
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| wicked. love to see that. is it because you are throwing it up rather than out? but you need to throw it up for the trick. argh. confused. |
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Gaignstar Soul Rider


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Posted: Aug 04, 2006 4:36 am Post subject: |
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ok, I land it !
 _________________ if you don't fall, that's cause you don't try |
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jpminter Wakeboarder.Commie


Joined: 28 Jun 2005 Posts: 1259 City: Richmond, VA
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Posted: Aug 04, 2006 4:55 am Post subject: |
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| Gaignstar, congrats! Can you land crows? If not, you could probably learn them pretty easily now. |
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Gaignstar Soul Rider


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Posted: Aug 04, 2006 4:58 am Post subject: |
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jpminter, Thanks bro. yeah, I land a few crows, but I need to work on the constancy. I've got a clean a$$ with all those but check.
I land my first crow 3 days ago and TS Front flip last night.
now workin on grabs on those _________________ if you don't fall, that's cause you don't try |
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gene3x Addict


Joined: 31 Aug 2004 Posts: 759 City: Dallas
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Posted: Aug 06, 2006 11:01 am Post subject: |
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On both the Crow and the Front Roll I get good pop and rotation I am just landing on the back foot of my board so that it pops a wheelie towards the boat everytime. What would correct this? _________________ My therapist says it is all your fault. |
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Gaignstar Soul Rider


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Posted: Aug 14, 2006 4:03 am Post subject: |
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gene3x, stay tuck little longer, you will have time to spot your landing. _________________ if you don't fall, that's cause you don't try |
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gene3x Addict


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Posted: Aug 14, 2006 5:34 am Post subject: |
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Like I said before I have plenty of time to spot my landing and even over-rotate it sometimes. I just always land tail heavy. Nobody seems to have an answer for that one. _________________ My therapist says it is all your fault. |
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Gaignstar Soul Rider


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Posted: Aug 14, 2006 11:19 am Post subject: |
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gene3x, let go with your back hand and keep the handle close to your hip _________________ if you don't fall, that's cause you don't try |
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gene3x Addict


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Posted: Aug 14, 2006 1:00 pm Post subject: |
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Tried it. I over rotate and land on my back! with the tail diving in first half way to crow mobe.  _________________ My therapist says it is all your fault. |
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Gaignstar Soul Rider


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Posted: Aug 15, 2006 5:24 pm Post subject: |
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gene3x, you are probably edging too much. take it from arround 20 ft, with a progressive cut _________________ if you don't fall, that's cause you don't try |
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