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PostPosted: May 16, 2006 9:54 am    Post subject: Need help on Raley Reply with quote

So, whenever I try a Raley a cut into the wake hard like you should, I get extended all the way, but when I try and pull myself back down to land i always get pulled into a huge front flip and eat it hard. Any suggestions?
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PostPosted: May 16, 2006 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Make sure you push the handle down towards the wake.
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PostPosted: May 16, 2006 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WakeLess, disregard CP3's suggestion. The EXACT problem you are doing is the same problem that every body does when learning a raley, and that is looking towards the shore. The key to a raley is having a 50/50 even cut weight distribution into the wake and when you take off, look directly at the tower and nothing else. When I learned raleys, i was first trying them at home and did not no what to do and was taking similar falls as you were, but I got a lesson and all he told me was, "just look at the tower the entire time" and i landed it a few tries later. The funny thing is and i still remember it to this day (and this was about 5 years ago) that when i learned the raley, I didnt even look at the wake when I was edging, only the tower. That is how important it is to look ahead. I really don't reccomend doing that but it is how i learned it. If you can post a video, i can tell you exactly what to do. BUT DO NOT PUSH THE HANDLE DOWN
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PostPosted: May 16, 2006 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok sorry. It helped me. its people like you that make this site suck. Just trying to help and you gotta go and be a little Biach. I am sorry we all arent as good as you. Dude just add your 2 cents. dont rip mine.
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PostPosted: May 16, 2006 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dude this is trick tips, if the kid pushes the handle down, he is going to eath sh*t. I am trying to save him from a bad fall. my favorite thing about wakeboarding is seeing someone land a new trick. I DONT WANT HIM TO GET HURT WHICH COULD HAPPEN IF HE PUSHES THE HANDLE DOWN. this isn't non wake or general discussion, where you give opinions, it is trick tips where you help people learn new tricks they are trying. I will call out anybody who is giving the completely wrong advice in trick tips.
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PostPosted: May 16, 2006 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

whatever man. It helped me. you still dont have to be a dick about it.
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PostPosted: May 16, 2006 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

not being a dick at all, i am trying to help the kid out, if you push the handle down when learning a raley, bad things can happen
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PostPosted: May 16, 2006 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

get 'err done
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PostPosted: May 17, 2006 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, I'm headed to the lake here in a few hours, I'll give it a shot. I'm a little spooked in trying it again because of a bad crash last summer trying one. I hit the side of my body and everything went numb for like 5 mins. Kinda scared me of Raleys. But, you only learn from eating water right?...
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PostPosted: May 18, 2006 8:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

howd it go?
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PostPosted: May 18, 2006 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Umm I agree with CP3, pushing the handle down is how you get your feet back under you. If you try to pull it to your chest it won't work. Push it down and bring your knees to it. Please disregard kyle's suggestion about the handle, but make sure you look and the tower when your learning them. Good Luck!
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PostPosted: May 18, 2006 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NorthwestRider, yeah its how you get your feet back under you but it surely isnt about how you initiate a raley which was his problem as he kept turning into flips.
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PostPosted: May 18, 2006 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

all the tramp vids ive seen of raleys, they push the handle down as far as they can.

i read on one of these threads to think of "breaking the handle over your knee" to get your feet back under you. that may be right or wrong, but thats what i remember from reading up on the trick.

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PostPosted: May 18, 2006 1:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ian_82, tramp raley has pretty much zero similarity, but if you think about it logically a raley is done exactly how it looks. You cut in as hard as you can, pop, and pretty much just put your hands over your head like "superman". To pull it down, i tell people to break the handle over their knee, but it isn't really neccessary, they come down pretty naturally.
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PostPosted: May 18, 2006 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kyle wrote:
NorthwestRider, yeah its how you get your feet back under you but it surely isnt about how you initiate a raley which was his problem as he kept turning into flips.

What did you think I was talking about. It says in the first post he gets extended but cant get his feet back underneath him.
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PostPosted: May 18, 2006 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CP3, If he is getting extended then going into a "front flip" which is actually a backroll, it means that he is not looking at the tower and instead is looking at the horizon, pulling the trick down is not the problem for him, it is the take off. If you can do raleys, you know that it is very easy to pull the trick down.
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PostPosted: May 19, 2006 8:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for all the tips, My main problem to clear up all the arguing is getting the board back under my feet.
Instead I hit the wake hard, I extend all the way, but as i swing my legs out it doesn't really stop the motion of my legs going up, which (now thinking about it) is probably my main problem. So this continues the extention of my legs behind me which keeps the momentum going upwards making me go over my head. So maybe I shouldn't kick my legs back so hard, and let them go out at a more softer pace?

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PostPosted: May 19, 2006 9:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

whats up man
i was wondering how much air do yall do raleys at everyone saids as much as possible but i am riding without a tower and i tend to come down fast. i am getting very good at jumping and doing small tricks but i am tring to see if i have a chance on doing a raley

i can do one on the tramp easy and i am about 4 to 5 ft on the tramp and about 6 to 10 ft on my board do yall think if i am above the boat i will be alright or should i wait and get a pylon

thanks
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PostPosted: May 19, 2006 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WakeLess, if you are continuing the swinging motion into a flip, you arent looking at the tower, just keep your eyes on the tower, and you will stick it and never fall on it again
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PostPosted: Jun 12, 2006 9:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

to many silly quabbles on this site why cant we all just chill out and help each other progress in the sport we love???
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PostPosted: Jun 12, 2006 8:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Need help on Raley Reply with quote

WakeLess wrote:
So, whenever I try a Raley a cut into the wake hard like you should, I get extended all the way, but when I try and pull myself back down to land i always get pulled into a huge front flip and eat it hard. Any suggestions?


so are your balls at the bottom of the lake or somehere in your neck?
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PostPosted: Jun 12, 2006 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes, please suga kane. but we have 2 people who think they're right and are determined to teach this guy their way. I can't do a raley. I dont have the balls. but damn one of you just admit you're wrong. and this is where i leave the thread.
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