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PostPosted: May 25, 2006 6:22 am    Post subject: off axis spins Reply with quote

can anyone do an of axis 360??? I need help,i can do them huge on the tramp but i spin the oppisite way of a normal 360, When i do them on the water it just turns in some sort of flip! Am i spinning the wrong way??
or can u do them both ways any help would be nice
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PostPosted: May 25, 2006 8:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

IMO - HS BS OFF 3 is harder since most all BS spinning is harder for most people. Plus each trick requires a completely different release off the wake about as different as you can get matter of fact.

So I will only talk about the HS FS OFF 3... You want to leave the wake with a very progressive backroll type release off the wake. waiting on the pop and loading the tail as you ride up the wake. Once you pop push the handle down low and to the small of your back. Your feet should be waist high or higher almost automatically if you left the wake as described above. Think big off axis 180 or you will over rotate catch your front edge and eat it hard For this reason most people feel that the HS FS OFF 5 is easier as it's a more natural rotation out of the off axis position. For me I just toss a quick grab in there and it seems to slow my rotation down. I go for the grab right off the wake before my feet get too far out behind me. I started to learn this trick after I took my HS FS 180's off axis into the drifting position and my boys would tell me I was almost backfacing the boat every time like a batwing but from the HS side of the wake.

The tramp really helps with this trick. IMO the hardest part is getting used to the boats pull once you are backwards. The tramp can not simulate that and no one likes to land backwards as 22+ MPH from 12 feet up....

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PostPosted: Jun 01, 2006 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dude, buy "the book" and check out the spinning dvd... they pretty much answer any and every question you might have about off axis stuff... kyle knows what he is talking about, so give that a shot... they also give a lot of trampoline examples and instruction too, so i think that this instructional would be a good investment for you...

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PostPosted: Jun 01, 2006 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

J_DOGG wrote:
IMO - HS BS OFF 3 is harder since most all BS spinning is harder for most people. Plus each trick requires a completely different release off the wake about as different as you can get matter of fact.

So I will only talk about the HS FS OFF 3... You want to leave the wake with a very progressive backroll type release off the wake. waiting on the pop and loading the tail as you ride up the wake. Once you pop push the handle down low and to the small of your back. Your feet should be waist high or higher almost automatically if you left the wake as described above. Think big off axis 180 or you will over rotate catch your front edge and eat it hard For this reason most people feel that the HS FS OFF 5 is easier as it's a more natural rotation out of the off axis position. For me I just toss a quick grab in there and it seems to slow my rotation down. I go for the grab right off the wake before my feet get too far out behind me. I started to learn this trick after I took my HS FS 180's off axis into the drifting position and my boys would tell me I was almost backfacing the boat every time like a batwing but from the HS side of the wake.

The tramp really helps with this trick. IMO the hardest part is getting used to the boats pull once you are backwards. The tramp can not simulate that and no one likes to land backwards as 22+ MPH from 12 feet up....


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PostPosted: Jun 02, 2006 4:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hyperlitesonofabitch, I guess I can take that as a compliment.

I'm old and have been in the game a long time, I should know a lot but I'll be the first to admit I don't know everything.


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PostPosted: Jun 05, 2006 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

is it cypress hill?
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PostPosted: Jun 05, 2006 11:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

my sigs better. where'd you get those clothes? the toilet factory?
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PostPosted: Jun 07, 2006 7:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

shaggyboarder, YES....
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PostPosted: Jun 07, 2006 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

J_DOGG wrote:
hyperlitesonofabitch, I guess I can take that as a compliment.

I'm old and have been in the game a long time, I should know a lot but I'll be the first to admit I don't know everything.


My sig is from a song, name the song and you are my hero.... he he...


haha I'll do a lyrics search.
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PostPosted: Jun 07, 2006 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hyperlitesonofabitch, holy $hit someone went a little posting crazy in the trick tips forums 15 of the top 17 have u as the last poster Laughing
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PostPosted: Jun 07, 2006 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

screw u man i'm at the lake and the boat's broken Sad
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PostPosted: Jun 07, 2006 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hahah it's the last 17 straight now... we're not bashing you, i just think its a record or somethin
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PostPosted: Jun 07, 2006 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i know yall are just messing around but damn it's so boring up here when u can't wakeboard.
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PostPosted: Jun 08, 2006 5:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hey hyperlitesonofabitch, have u ever heard of Lake Burton in GA? my friend has a lakehouse up there and we go every summer for a couple weeks and wakeboard. and i can only imagine how boring it would be without wakeboarding. swimming and jumping off the dock would get old after the first day
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PostPosted: Jun 08, 2006 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

very true Craig-R. but all of my boarding is done at my lakehouse in Seneca, SC. on lake hartwell. if ur ever there give me a holler.
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