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PostPosted: Mar 06, 2006 10:03 pm    Post subject: HOW SICK WOULD THIS BE?! Reply with quote

Out of all my horribly bad ideas, this has to be a good one Very Happy It's like a pool but with high pressure jets pushing water at the mini hull, which displaces and redirects the jet streams simulating a wake Razz

The pool could be heated so you wouldn't need to worry about your boys when riding in the winter!! Very Happy

Bad idea? Maybe. I sketched it in English and got bored at home with 10 minutes to spare. If this idea isn't that bad, don't steal it. I could make MILLIONS Twisted Evil




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PostPosted: Mar 06, 2006 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it's cool if you're doing a lot of surface tricks. but off-the-wake tricks, it'd be kind of hard since there would be nothing pulling the rider.

trust me, my friends and i have thought this out already. Laughing

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PostPosted: Mar 06, 2006 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

geeez Razz hey since the water is being pumped around hella fast, it should be good for off the wake tricks shouldn't it? hahah
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PostPosted: Mar 06, 2006 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You would need to more than just the jets for the wake. Add enough water flowing back (see red arrows) to create a surface for the rider to initiate their cut and you might be able to do this. Then to get the shape of the wake you could do something similar to the wave house in San Diego except at a 15 degree angle (vs. almost 80).



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PostPosted: Mar 06, 2006 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought about this as well one time after seeing one of those artificial surfing waves.

You could do wake tricks as long as you can get the water pumped and flowin around 20mph. That might be the expensive part.

If I had the money I would try to design one. But ill let you do it. Wink

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PostPosted: Mar 06, 2006 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DC, Sweet
This would be hella pricy but wicked-sweet.

Idea I could put this in the game!! Very Happy

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PostPosted: Mar 07, 2006 12:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think someone here with lots of bank should hook this idea up...preferably in Knoxville.....or in my pool.
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PostPosted: Mar 07, 2006 4:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sure thet with enough money it could be successful. There is a comercial for a cruise line out there that shows something like it, surfing and boogieboarding.

LoudenTN, do you know any riders with INT in your area? I was told that we were going to have a TN/KY challange event in Knoxville this upcoming year. Should be a good time. KY is only in their 2nd year of INT, but were doing OK.

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PostPosted: Mar 07, 2006 5:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

what happens when you fall
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PostPosted: Mar 07, 2006 5:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We had an INT competition last year, not sure who coordinates all of it, but it had a really good turnout. More kneeboarders than I could stand but hey, we're all out there to have fun.
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PostPosted: Mar 07, 2006 5:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We have only had 1 kneeboarder at any of our competitions. Mostly wakeboarders, alot of novice riders, but thats what its all about. We are growing. Last year only 4 events, this year I think there will be 7. I met your states coordinator at the nashville boatshow, but I can't remember who they are. I'm not our states coordinator.
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PostPosted: Mar 07, 2006 7:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yup I've thought of that exact thing 10 different ways till Sunday. At best it would be a simulation.

I'd love to have the money to give it a try and see where it would lead, who knows right.

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PostPosted: Mar 07, 2006 7:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glen Mitchell is our state coordinator. We have a really good wakeboard scene here in East Tennessee. Helps that Mastercraft, Skiers Choice (Moomba/Supra), and Malibu all have their factories here. Last year we had our INT competition at Turkey Creek, where we keep our team dock. We had so many kneeboarders/skiers/skaters that it took several hours before we even saw a wakeboarder.

You can hit me up on PM if you want, or maybe even start a thread if you want to publically talk about this or get something going. Not sure if Glen Mitchell is on these boards, might have better luck trying his email, which I think is something like tennessee@intleague.com, actually that's it, and I found his phone number: (615)824-7593, it's listed on the INT webpage.

Anyways, sorry bout the thread Hi-jack, I like your idea! haha

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PostPosted: Mar 07, 2006 12:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It would hurt! Crying or Very sad

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PostPosted: Mar 07, 2006 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah it would! You'd have hickies all over whatever body parts hit the pickup grate. You could hook up a tether to the rider, but the water isn't going to stop instantly.
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PostPosted: Mar 07, 2006 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, you guy are thinking all high tech....

The wash out would be like a water fall. You fall and the 20 mph water pushes you over the water fall into a pool of water where the rider can take his gear off climb out and walk back to the line for the next wake session.

Trust me I have thought about this for many years, a lot of low tech solutions could make this work.
The rope could be hooked up to a spring loaded device that would simulate line load so when you leave the wake you would get pulled forward a bit. still not the same as it is not a constant pull, it's a simulation!

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PostPosted: Mar 07, 2006 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the most plausible way to do this would be like a flowrider/wavehouse, but with more jets at a slower speed. Rather than a really thin layer of water flowing over the surface, shoot a thicker 6" - 1' of water over it and create a wake like shape with the surface. This would enable you to fall similar to a flowrider but have the feeling of a wakeboard.

Although part of the problem is that the flowriding surface is not that durable and you couldn't have a sharp edge on your board. It might be difficult to take a good cut into the "wake"

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PostPosted: Mar 07, 2006 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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the water pressure will push you into one of the pool walls and trap you there...the people that control the water pressure will probably be reading a magazine or be busy doing something else while the pressure will slowly break every bone in your body Laughing

honestly it will probably be something like they have at the wave house...the pool will be so large that the water pressure will come to a stop before you reach the other side

this kind of project will need a sponsorship from the wavehouse...unless you are rich

the only thing that sucks is that there is no way to practice double ups or hitting sliders with this
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PostPosted: Mar 07, 2006 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought of this all on my own,tso techinically its my idea too, so I should get some money for it. I had to trash the idea though, I figured out that I only had about 45 bucks in my bank account so....whatever...
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PostPosted: Mar 07, 2006 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

since everyone is saying this is there idea and they thought of it before, ya i thought of it a little while ago Wink
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PostPosted: Mar 07, 2006 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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what happens when you fall

you get blown away into the back wall and sucked into the vents and you drown
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PostPosted: Mar 07, 2006 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

has anyone realised this would need to be like 80ft long to make it worthwile... n e way
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PostPosted: Mar 07, 2006 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dip_Krew, Very true
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PostPosted: Mar 07, 2006 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

or you could just go to the lake??
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PostPosted: Mar 07, 2006 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dude your like frickin' einstein
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PostPosted: Mar 07, 2006 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spins would be really hard since theres no line load.
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PostPosted: Mar 07, 2006 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always wondered If it were possible to wakeskate in a river, if you were holding onto a rope connected to say a tree. Of course the river would have to be flooding for it to be flowing fast enough though.
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PostPosted: Mar 07, 2006 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah you should just plan this out and try to sell it to some company $$$
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I'll pitch in $1000, send me the business plan with stock options...
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PostPosted: Mar 07, 2006 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would've been less sick had you not written the title in all caps.
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PostPosted: Mar 07, 2006 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Mar 07, 2006 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KieranL, they did a while back in either wakeboarding mag or alliance, they tied the rope to this bridge and they were doing shuvs and sweet stuff
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PostPosted: Mar 07, 2006 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I honestly didn't think this would turn out to be such a serious subject Laughing

Anyways, here is a new idea, similar to those plastic surf waves.

For the wake shape, I'm thinking like foam with a non-porous layer on top. The water should be deep enough to edge in.




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PostPosted: Mar 07, 2006 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay, $10,000......but I still need to see those business plans
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An easier & less expensive option would be to warm the lake. Shocked Rolling Eyes
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