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Loppy Outlaw

Joined: 01 Dec 2005 Posts: 238 City: Fair Oaks, Nor Cal
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Posted: Dec 06, 2005 2:21 pm Post subject: 97 Nautique Sport 21 - Any good? |
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Stoked to find this board. New to here, not to the scene.
Here's the skin:
97 Nautique Sport 21, open bow, 5.7 G40 motor. Thats it. Not worried about the accessories, I'll do that.
She was worked pretty hard. About 700 hrs on her. Motor however is super tight and everything works well.
I can score it for less than 15K.
Is this a good boat? If she was sacked up, throw a decent ramp? Any opinions would be great as I know very little about Natuiques. Thanks.
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Efox Outlaw

Joined: 11 Oct 2004 Posts: 238 City: Lawrenceburg
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Posted: Dec 06, 2005 2:24 pm Post subject: |
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That would be an excellent hull for wake, but will require weight. If it is a direct drive, weight will take up a lot of your walking room. If it's a v-drive, it may be the deal of the century. 700 hours is not much time when you conside most people here who board often probably put 150hours a season on their boat.
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Loppy Outlaw

Joined: 01 Dec 2005 Posts: 238 City: Fair Oaks, Nor Cal
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Posted: Dec 06, 2005 2:29 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks man. Should have said before, it's a direct drive. Cant afford a V drive yet. I have 15K cash to work with and know Nautiques are well made. I just dont know about the wake being thrown behind it.
And there is some considerable fat sack room behind the rear seat.
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J-Ro PityDaFool Who Posts This Much


Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 5662 City: Rocklin
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Posted: Dec 06, 2005 2:29 pm Post subject: |
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Loppy, Yeah, thats a screaming deal.
oh and completely out of my character.....Welcome to the site
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Erik Old School Freak

Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 2830 City: Boston MA, Wolfeboro NH, DelRay FL, Montego Bay, Jamaica
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Posted: Dec 06, 2005 2:30 pm Post subject: |
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This sounds like a good boat and a great deal.
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Loppy Outlaw

Joined: 01 Dec 2005 Posts: 238 City: Fair Oaks, Nor Cal
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Posted: Dec 06, 2005 2:33 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you Mr. J-Ro. Local boy, I'm assuming that's Rocklin nor cal right? Ride Folsom?
It's good to be nice to guys you dont know that live close to you. never know, we may be fighting over the same water.
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Wakebrad Ladies Man


Joined: 11 Dec 2003 Posts: 12257 City: Dallas
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Posted: Dec 06, 2005 2:33 pm Post subject: |
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Sounds like a good deal. Lots of hours but if it's been maintained you should be good. Will throw a great wake, vertical. For less than $15k that sounds like a good deal to me.
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Loppy Outlaw

Joined: 01 Dec 2005 Posts: 238 City: Fair Oaks, Nor Cal
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Posted: Dec 06, 2005 2:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Erik Jernberg wrote: | This sounds like a good boat and a great deal.
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Comming. It's winterized on a rack in storage right now. Warehouse was too dark. They should have it out on a dolly any day. I'll post up when I get em.
It's beat up a bit. Apholstry is fine, cept for the rear seat which has the piping comming apart. And there is some dock rash all around it here and there, but i'm thinking about 40-50% will rub out. No hard hits. The below ballast hull is spotless, not a scratch. Spent it's life on Lake Shasta in a berth most of the summers. Belonged to a very small Christian College.
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J-Ro PityDaFool Who Posts This Much


Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 5662 City: Rocklin
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Posted: Dec 06, 2005 2:40 pm Post subject: |
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Loppy, Yeah we hit Folsom a lot. There are a lot of Nor-Cal guys here.
Check the boat for any kind of blistering. If it sat in the water for long periods, that could be an issue.
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Loppy Outlaw

Joined: 01 Dec 2005 Posts: 238 City: Fair Oaks, Nor Cal
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Posted: Dec 06, 2005 2:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Wakebrad wrote: | | Sounds like a good deal. Lots of hours but if it's been maintained you should be good. Will throw a great wake, vertical. For less than $15k that sounds like a good deal to me. |
Thats the problem, they have no service records on it and the college just wants it gone, so they are no help. I'm VERY familiar with the 5.7 TBI engine though, and they're as tough as they come. Not worried about the motor. More worried about seals, tranny, chit like that.
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Loppy Outlaw

Joined: 01 Dec 2005 Posts: 238 City: Fair Oaks, Nor Cal
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Posted: Dec 06, 2005 2:46 pm Post subject: |
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| J-Ro wrote: | Loppy, Yeah we hit Folsom a lot. There are a lot of Nor-Cal guys here.
Check the boat for any kind of blistering. If it sat in the water for long periods, that could be an issue. |
Will do, thanks for the tip.
Hope to hook up with some of you guys this summer. We're talking about a polar bear run soon, interested?
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Seth Martin Moderator


Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 891 City: Orlando
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Posted: Dec 06, 2005 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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this boat has a great wake, when weighted. Put full sacks on both sides of the engine
then figure out the weight behind the engine and in the walk through
ive ridden behind one with just the full side sacks, with abou 6 people in the boat, and the wake was great, very nice ramp - with a nice lip
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Loppy Outlaw

Joined: 01 Dec 2005 Posts: 238 City: Fair Oaks, Nor Cal
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Posted: Dec 07, 2005 9:03 am Post subject: |
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Thanks Seth.
Yeah, did some more digging last night. I'm good buds with Wakeboarding legend and pioneer Mike Rogers. We had a good chat last night and gave the boat nothing but huge kudos. 98 is when they fawked up the hull design and even the factory riders stuck with their 97's for years because they loved them so much.
If Mike likes it, I'm all over it.
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bremsen Outlaw


Joined: 08 Jun 2005 Posts: 168 City: Charlotte
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Posted: Dec 07, 2005 12:06 pm Post subject: |
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Actually, the Sport/Air hull has not really changed since 93. In 98 CC built a "Pro Air" which had a different hull, but the Air was/is still available.
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Loppy Outlaw

Joined: 01 Dec 2005 Posts: 238 City: Fair Oaks, Nor Cal
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Posted: Dec 07, 2005 1:06 pm Post subject: |
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Good to know, thanks man.
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Loppy Outlaw

Joined: 01 Dec 2005 Posts: 238 City: Fair Oaks, Nor Cal
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Posted: Dec 09, 2005 11:22 am Post subject: |
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Loppy Outlaw

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Loppy Outlaw

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Posted: Dec 09, 2005 11:27 am Post subject: |
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It does NOT have the GT40 like I thought. It's the 260 horse 5.7 TBI. not a big deal to me, I know the TBI motor inside and out. Reliability is awesome. The motor looks almost brand new.

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Commodore Ladies Man


Joined: 20 Jun 2005 Posts: 11636
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Posted: Dec 09, 2005 1:27 pm Post subject: |
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That boat is SICK!!!! And I am a die hard Supra guy. the 5.7L is better, you'll love having Fuel Injection. The interior looks real good too. If the college is really desperate, low ball them, and offer to take off there hands. Does it have a trailer?
A tower/pylon and some weight on the sides, oooooooh, nice setup.
Hope you get it man, would love to see that thing loaded.
And welcome to the boards man, from down southland.
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Loppy Outlaw

Joined: 01 Dec 2005 Posts: 238 City: Fair Oaks, Nor Cal
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Posted: Dec 10, 2005 10:15 am Post subject: |
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Thanks Haugy, you all have been very nice to this newbie. I really appreciate it.
There were three motors avail. in this boat. 5.7 TBI - 260 HP (this boat). 5.7 MPI - 290 HP and the Ford GT40 - 310 HP. The MPI and GT40 have great power, however suck more fuel and are a bit more complicated being multi port. I'm no stranger to the old TBI (throttle body) motor. I run one in my Jeep rockcrawler now (read spare motor ) They are tough as any motor out there, have decent torque, super reliable and there's nothing you cant fix on em without a blunt rock and some duct tape.
Because of the lower max RPM (4400) of the TBI vs. the other two (5200-5600) PCM put the "overdrive" trans on it. I believe it's 1.3:1 or so ratio. Therefore, top end is really no different in the boats. The TBI is just going to be a little more sluggish out of the hole. NO big to me. As long as I can get to the goo-wa same time as my other buds, I'm fine.
Price: I KNOW I can score this thing for 15K. It's gunna take alot of elbow grease to clean her up, so I'm shooting for 14. Even at 15, I think it's a smoke'n deal.
Yes, it comes with a Correct Craft, fully tube frame trailer with flip tounge.
All I'm gunna do is clean her up. Toss a skylon with racks, new binini, toss the rear seat and throw a fat sofa in and go porkchop myself up.
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Commodore Ladies Man


Joined: 20 Jun 2005 Posts: 11636
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Posted: Dec 10, 2005 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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Loppy, sorry to hijack. But you said my second favorite word next to boats. JEEP. Did I hear rockcrawler??? Tell ya what I am trying to finish up.
80 CJ7 with a Ford 351W with GT-40 heads. Carbed
Dana300 with twin sticks
14-bolt rear, detroit locker, with 4.88s
Planning on a 3/4 ton D44 or D60 front, that's what's holding me up no front axle.
38 or 39 inch TSL fronts, boggers rear
What do you play on the rocks with?
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Hollywood PityDaFool Who Posts This Much


Joined: 01 Oct 2003 Posts: 5601 City: Door Knob
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Posted: Dec 10, 2005 11:50 pm Post subject: |
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haugy, PM?
Oh, and the '98+ hull is a little different just as Loppy says.
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bremsen Outlaw


Joined: 08 Jun 2005 Posts: 168 City: Charlotte
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Posted: Dec 11, 2005 6:41 am Post subject: |
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| Hollywood, I'm still new to nautiques but FWIK the differences are very slight...nothing that would drastically change the wake shape/size/hardness at speed as loppy stated. This is why I assumed he was referring to the Pro air. However, if I'm mistaken please, by all means, correct me.
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Hollywood PityDaFool Who Posts This Much


Joined: 01 Oct 2003 Posts: 5601 City: Door Knob
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Posted: Dec 11, 2005 1:10 pm Post subject: |
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bremsen, it really isn't that drastic, few could probably tell.
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Loppy Outlaw

Joined: 01 Dec 2005 Posts: 238 City: Fair Oaks, Nor Cal
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Posted: Dec 14, 2005 10:58 am Post subject: |
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Haugy, Right on bruhdda. Surf and turf like me. I'll pm ya with the details, but my junk is all one ton and I play on Rubicon and Fordyce.
Check out my clubs site: rps4wd.com
We get her wet on Friday. Pending water test, will let you guys know if shes mine or not. Then it's clean and mod time.
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