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PostPosted: Aug 11, 2005 8:49 am    Post subject: HS BS180 WTF Reply with quote

I've been trying these for about 2 weeks now. I get the spin and everything that's the easy part but I can't visualize passsing the handle so I try to land with my left hand behind my back and I slide out. how do I land this.

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PostPosted: Aug 11, 2005 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

try slowing the boat to about 19 mph and go from inside of the wake to the outside, edging heelside, and do the spin. it is a lot easier because you get less line tension from going slow and you can pull in easier to do the handlepass.
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PostPosted: Aug 11, 2005 10:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

can you do an ollie BS 180 WakeTech? Getting that dialed in helped me tons. ohio_wake's advice is good too...start small, learn it right, then take it HUGE!
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PostPosted: Aug 11, 2005 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No haven't tied the ollie yet, I just figured I'de learn it going big. I can get the spin off easily but maybe I should slow it down. Do you actually pass the handle ? my mental block just tells me the only way to land is with it wrapped behind my back
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PostPosted: Aug 11, 2005 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

WakeTech, try passing the handle and do what feels more comfortable. Personally, I would try to pass the handle because that will help a LOT more in the long run, even if it takes longer. And it is easier to land IMO. I have only done them inside-out though.
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PostPosted: Aug 11, 2005 10:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The ollie is nice to learn b/c the crashes aren't bad since you are close the the water. I always pass the handle though so I can practice it for my HS BS 3. Plus it looks cooler when you pass the handle. Cool
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PostPosted: Aug 11, 2005 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

89comp, the in-to-out goin is not painful at all. i had a jacked knee last week (i still do, but now i have a brace) and learned my switch bs 180's that way and wrecked a bunch, since it was a complete different spin to me, and it didn't bother me.

i always thought the BS 180 was really hard until i went to the BYT and learned a switch FS 360 going slow, and then i started to learn my bs 180's that way and it worked perfectly.

good luck though WakeTech
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PostPosted: Aug 11, 2005 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ohio_wake_2008, BYT?
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PostPosted: Aug 11, 2005 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Aug 11, 2005 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

remember to not turn until the way down, also I take just a easy cut at the wake, just enough to get over to the other side. Definetly work on ollie bs 180
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PostPosted: Aug 11, 2005 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ohio_wake_2008, gotcha, thanks.
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PostPosted: Aug 11, 2005 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

when i was learning these i slowed the boat down to 15-16 mph. passing the handle makes these MUCH easier. try them from inside to out as previously suggested. once you get your pop from the wake, jerk the snot out of the handle to your front hip and reach for the handle. take a seated approach too, this will keep the line tension low and maximize your pop. some one the water thoughts
1 ) seated position
2) pop
3) jerk it
4) pass it
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PostPosted: Aug 12, 2005 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

im working on thoes now, but I find the ts bs to be easier. Im practicing surface 3's, and being able to pass the handle on thoes real quick, then do a surface 3 at the top of the wake. in theory, I just need to start poping, but I have yet to land one.
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PostPosted: Aug 13, 2005 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if you are landing them wrapped there are 2 things you must do to not slide out.

1. look in opposite direction of travel. this means dont look at the boat when landing not anywhere near it, more like the trail in the water your board just made after cutting thru it.

2. break at waist to w/ chest over toes to prevent being pulled over onto heels

And dont even tell me that keith lymans method to late blind 180, landing wrapped isnt the sickest heelside backside 180 you've ever seen.

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PostPosted: Aug 13, 2005 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

exactly
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PostPosted: Aug 14, 2005 8:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Aug 14, 2005 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cool one word posts Laughing
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PostPosted: Aug 14, 2005 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Last week I had my bs 3s dialed in pretty nicely, but this weekend I have been just going off axis and its a mess. I am not even sure how I am landing and it has been getting on my nerves because I had it better then my fs 3s, now its the opposite. Could it be that I am spinning of the wake to soon?
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PostPosted: Aug 14, 2005 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

scooter, yep. Without knowing anything else, my guess would be you're trying to spin it early and going o/a.
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PostPosted: Aug 21, 2005 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

is it easier to learn the handle pass version or land wrapped?
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PostPosted: Aug 23, 2005 8:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

u don't need to handle pass or do it wrapped for a hs 180

simply if your coming from the left side in on heel side hold the rop with your right hand only and then do it much easier way 2 learn

then when u get good practice the handlepass
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PostPosted: Aug 23, 2005 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

for a HS BS 180, AirProfile?
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