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bhamglassman Soul Rider


Joined: 21 Jun 2005 Posts: 338 City: Bellingham
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Posted: Aug 01, 2005 8:43 pm Post subject: TOESIDE FRONTROLLS ~ ~ ~ |
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I'm trying to learn a toeside frontroll as my first invert and i'm getting REALLY REALLY CLOSE but after like 8 tries I am still barely underrotating. My board is what hits the water first but my body is tilted back too much to stick it. what usually happens is i come in with a really hard toeside edge and trip the wake/wait for the pop. my friends say i'm getting plenty of air and i land out in the flats but i just can't seem to rotate that little bit faster so i stick it.... how do i rotate faster?????? or what am i doing wrong?? _________________ signatures are lame |
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Celtic Boarder Outlaw


Joined: 18 Aug 2004 Posts: 103 City: Cavan
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Posted: Aug 02, 2005 12:23 am Post subject: |
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If your pop is good enough it sounds like you might need more speed. Remember on trip flip edges it's that edge change or stopping at the wake that initiates the flip. Going faster will automatically give you more momentum to complete the rotation. Try it! _________________ Hasta la victoria siempre |
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K-wood Kid Wakeboarder.Commie


Joined: 03 Jun 2005 Posts: 1531 City: Dallas
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J_DOGG PityDaFool Who Posts This Much


Joined: 14 Jan 2003 Posts: 5088 City: New Hampshire
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Posted: Aug 02, 2005 3:39 am Post subject: |
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K-wood Kid, why, do you want to apply ice to them???? LOL.....
Snap the head down off the wake, the goal is to over rotate this trick so you land on your toes....
Sounds like you are right there, keep at it. _________________ PEACE
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"Everyone wants a bite, it don't happen over night"! |
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rhettb Criminal

Joined: 03 Jun 2003 Posts: 69 City: Raleigh
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Posted: Aug 02, 2005 4:28 am Post subject: |
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I agree with JDOGG, really ride up the wake, don't be a wuss and really throw your head down fast to start the rotation, finish by trying to put the handle directly on your front hip (you won't be able to keep it there the entire rotation, but try and get it back there at the end of the trick)
Also as JDOGG said, overrotate the trick - when you fall out over your toes to a nice face plant, you'll have it in the next couple of tries _________________ Malibu Boats
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holdsworth PityDaFool Who Posts This Much

Joined: 01 May 2003 Posts: 5333 City: Knoxville
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Posted: Aug 02, 2005 5:17 am Post subject: |
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i've never heard of a ts frontroll as a first invert. a little difficult.  |
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bhamglassman Soul Rider


Joined: 21 Jun 2005 Posts: 338 City: Bellingham
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Posted: Aug 02, 2005 7:47 am Post subject: |
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i've never heard of a ts frontroll as a first invert. a little difficult.
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im almost as good at toeside as heelside now, especially when im doin tricks i always go as big as my hs tricks. im learnin it first because im most comfortable with front flips.
as soon as my shoulder/knee heal up im gona go put these tips into action... _________________ signatures are lame |
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K-wood Kid Wakeboarder.Commie


Joined: 03 Jun 2005 Posts: 1531 City: Dallas
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bhamglassman Soul Rider


Joined: 21 Jun 2005 Posts: 338 City: Bellingham
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Posted: Aug 02, 2005 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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ya my friend learned a crow as his first TS invert. that mother fu--er tried 5 scarecrows and then landed it. ever since then he lands it like 80 percent of the time. anyways i like to learn everything that goes into a trick as to prevent from bad technique. plus i like having more tricks in my arsenal. _________________ signatures are lame |
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K-wood Kid Wakeboarder.Commie


Joined: 03 Jun 2005 Posts: 1531 City: Dallas
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Posted: Aug 03, 2005 9:48 am Post subject: |
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Well learn crow then ts frontroll then elehant then crow mobe then big worm the crow mobe 5 then start on ts backroll tricks.  _________________ www.soswakeboard.com
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bhamglassman Soul Rider


Joined: 21 Jun 2005 Posts: 338 City: Bellingham
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Posted: Aug 03, 2005 9:55 am Post subject: |
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K-wood Kid,  _________________ signatures are lame |
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K-wood Kid Wakeboarder.Commie


Joined: 03 Jun 2005 Posts: 1531 City: Dallas
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Posted: Aug 03, 2005 10:00 am Post subject: |
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Well you said everything that goes into a trick before you learn it so there is the progression from ts frontroll on. _________________ www.soswakeboard.com
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bhamglassman Soul Rider


Joined: 21 Jun 2005 Posts: 338 City: Bellingham
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Posted: Aug 03, 2005 12:48 pm Post subject: |
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K-wood Kid, you are confused. i meant i like to learn what the trick consists of before learning that trick. for example, learn TS Frontrolls and TS FS 180's before you learn a scarecrow. _________________ signatures are lame |
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holdsworth PityDaFool Who Posts This Much

Joined: 01 May 2003 Posts: 5333 City: Knoxville
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Posted: Aug 03, 2005 1:22 pm Post subject: |
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bhamglassman, why, can't you do a ts fs 180?  |
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Phil Addict

Joined: 14 Jan 2003 Posts: 636 City: Chattanooga
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Posted: Aug 03, 2005 2:13 pm Post subject: |
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You guys are some ignorant bastards( ohio wake and k-wood kid ).Just cause you guys have a acouple inverts you think you can make fun of some learning one like there gonna steal your steam or something. Go wakeboard or something you fags.
As for the frontroll you probably dont need to rotate any faster just stayed tucked longer so you kid of over rotate it. Keep your head down till you seen the shore then open up and keep your chest real far over your toes. _________________ http://www.centurionboats.com/
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bhamglassman Soul Rider


Joined: 21 Jun 2005 Posts: 338 City: Bellingham
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Posted: Aug 03, 2005 4:11 pm Post subject: |
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bhamglassman, why, can't you do a ts fs 180?
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uh, i never said i couldnt. i said i prefer to be able to land them before i try to land a scarecrow. i can do TS FS 180's every time. _________________ signatures are lame |
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Shenanigons916 Newbie

Joined: 26 Jul 2005 Posts: 14 City: Albemarle
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Posted: Aug 03, 2005 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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my first invert was a frontroll and i couldnt land it at first and then i started nailing it when i started keepin the rope tight and landed on my heels...stick with it though _________________ "Fun gives you thrills, but money pays the bills" |
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wviveen Addict


Joined: 03 Mar 2003 Posts: 705 City: Loosdrecht
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Posted: Aug 03, 2005 10:55 pm Post subject: |
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I have the same problem... I have been trying them for some time now, but I just can't land on my toes. I always keep sliding out on my back.
I know the problem is with the handle, i just keep it too far in front of me.
Hope I land one soon... |
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colefooter Wakeboarder.com Freak

Joined: 22 Jun 2003 Posts: 3925 City: Fairborn, OH.
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Posted: Aug 04, 2005 9:12 am Post subject: |
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| bhamglassman wrote: | | anyways i like to learn everything that goes into a trick as to prevent from bad technique. plus i like having more tricks in my arsenal. |
That's actually a really good idea. I sort of wish I would of done that, because i use to have a really bad crow because i would like whip it weird. But now that i have ts fronts i just take it like a front but then pull the handle over and it looks better that way. It also sets you up so you can do tricks easier later on. Once you nail a ts front, a bet a crow will come in 3-4 tries.
One thing that really helps is that you need to ride ALL the way up the wake. Some people try to initate the trick way to fast which will give you crappy pop. Try waiting just a split second longer and you will be able to feel the pop off of the wake. Then just try to land on your toes.. but if you land on your heels just hold on and you can most likely sketch it out. |
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J_DOGG PityDaFool Who Posts This Much


Joined: 14 Jan 2003 Posts: 5088 City: New Hampshire
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Posted: Aug 04, 2005 9:38 am Post subject: |
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bhamglassman, You have the right thought process but some times it's better to go with your natural tendencies...
Meaning, you might land the crow first like most people do then go back to the TS front roll.. You could spend a month learning the TS Front or learn the crow after 5 attempts and then go back to the TS front. Learning tricks in a progressive manner is good habit to get into it's just not always conducive to learning new tricks.
As an example:
Why kill yo self on a HS 3 when you can learn the TS 3 first and then work on the HS 3 after. Go with what you are most comfortable with IMO.... _________________ PEACE
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K-wood Kid Wakeboarder.Commie


Joined: 03 Jun 2005 Posts: 1531 City: Dallas
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Posted: Aug 04, 2005 10:29 am Post subject: |
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Phil I thought he meant he wanted to learn ts front then crow and go in true order so I listed the full order dont try to call me out when you dont know what your talking about you friggin retard _________________ www.soswakeboard.com
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Phil Addict

Joined: 14 Jan 2003 Posts: 636 City: Chattanooga
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K-wood Kid Wakeboarder.Commie


Joined: 03 Jun 2005 Posts: 1531 City: Dallas
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Posted: Aug 04, 2005 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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Actually no but I guess I come off as an @sshole because I didn't realize it till now but hey I switched crow and frontroll. MY BAD _________________ www.soswakeboard.com
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