Surface 180 trouble

jmw_dba · Newbie Joined: 08 Jul 2005 Posts: 5 City: Huntsville

Hello all. I am a noob. I have only been out a few times. This past weekend I started riding switch. It was kinda painful at first cause I did a face plant. I think my heels actually touched the back of my head (not really, but it felt like it). Anyway, the way that I got turned was I did it when I just got up out of the water (following advice posted here). My problem is that every time I try to do a surface 180 at speed I can't get the board around. The fins on my board are fairly large and I guess that is what is keeping me from doing it. I thought about trying to ride up on the wake and do kind of a rail slide (excuse the skateboarding term) and get the board turned that way. Not sure if that will work though. Maybe I should get smaller fins. Anyway, any advice is welcome. Thanks!

WickedClimber · Outlaw Joined: 26 May 2005 Posts: 157 City: Annapolis

thats a butterslide when your up on the wake like that. try slowing the boat down a bit also you could try taking the fins off and taking them w/ you on the boat so if you have more trouble you can put them back on

jmw_dba · Newbie Joined: 08 Jul 2005 Posts: 5 City: Huntsville

Yea, I tried taking the fins off but the board gets really unstable when I do that. But that did work when I did it, I was able to get the board around then, but I like the stability the fins give me. I'll try slowing the boat down but don't know how much I will be able to. I have a 21' bayliner, not the best boat for wakeboarding, its ok for learning but not much else.

Blake · Posted: Jul 08, 2005 3:24 pm Post subject:

centex · Newbie Joined: 08 Jul 2005 Posts: 7 City: buffalo

should it be easier to ollie 180 or the butterslide? i've tried both but i dont have to much luck at either.

jmw_dba · Newbie Joined: 08 Jul 2005 Posts: 5 City: Huntsville

if i go out tomorrow i will try to ollie to get around. it's probably gonna hurt the first couple times but oh well. thanks!

WickedClimber · Outlaw Joined: 26 May 2005 Posts: 157 City: Annapolis

butterslide for me definately i got butterslides down the second time ever being out on a wakeboard kinda on accident. i thought it would basically be like a railslide skateboarding but w/ water

centex · Newbie Joined: 08 Jul 2005 Posts: 7 City: buffalo

thanks for the info. ill try the butterslide tomorrow when i go

t b d · Criminal Joined: 27 Aug 2004 Posts: 60 City: Coral Springs

TomOgorman · Criminal Joined: 09 Jul 2005 Posts: 92 City: England

the way i did it was to pull my amrs in and move my back leg round in one go .. it was easy until it came to staying up at the end

marcuskg · Posted: Jul 11, 2005 1:25 pm Post subject:

ive just stomped fs + bs butterslides going about 14-15mph. when your in the slide put a little more weight on your foot thats going to be facing forward, and cut out with your heels keeping your arms bent a little, and that should put you through your surface 180.

Fiona · Newbie Joined: 13 Jul 2005 Posts: 2 City: Dublin

Hey...

This is how I learnt my surface 180s...

1. Slow the boat speed down to about 12-14
2. Get a good solid stance and bring the handle in close to your front hip
3. To make the switch, bring your handle to your opposite hip, and bend your knees pusing your hips behind and back (as if you're doing a squat).... this will help to bring your board edge firmly onto your heels and will raise your toes slightly out of the water which will keep you safe from face plants Shocked

4. Your behind hip should come to the front and when it does stand tall holding the handle firmly to your new leading hip.
5. If you find the switch stance difficult, let go with your back and and this will keep the board in the correct alignment while you get used to riding switch.

Best of luck!
Fiona.

Fiona · Newbie Joined: 13 Jul 2005 Posts: 2 City: Dublin

PS. As you get better speed the boat speed up and you will find you will be able to do them at full speed soon.

Also, you will find that you won't need to squat as much as you get better edge control....

centex · Newbie Joined: 08 Jul 2005 Posts: 7 City: buffalo

thanks for all of the info. i tried the butterslide yesterday and it worked pretty good for me.