Is a whirlybird considered a mobe?

Skicross · Soul Rider Joined: 13 Sep 2004 Posts: 301

Hey can someone tell me if a whirlybird is considered a mobe because it's an invert with a 360 but it's not a handlepass.
And also could someone tell me how to post a video clip on here?

Fredrick Eisenhauer · Posted: Oct 10, 2004 7:34 am Post subject:

I would consider ita mobe. But I'm not to sure. To get a video here you need to have it hosted somewhere. wakepics.com is good. Oh yeah and this places image gallery. photos.wakeboarder.com I think.

Skicross · Soul Rider Joined: 13 Sep 2004 Posts: 301

alright thanks

Liquid*Force*Rider · Posted: Oct 10, 2004 8:09 am Post subject:

im 98% sure it is a mobe

flukdfilms · Posted: Oct 10, 2004 8:22 am Post subject:

have to agree, i believe it is.

blind5 · Outlaw Joined: 02 Feb 2004 Posts: 181

deffinetly not a mobe

midwest wake · Addict Joined: 13 Oct 2003 Posts: 629 City: Middleton

i have to say it is a mobe,

i've wondered about peoples opinions i've always thought that a raley was an invert, because your board is above your head just a little bit, so is it an invert and if it is as a s-bend or 313 a mobe?

pooser · Wakeboarder.com Freak Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 4738

okay does anyone know for sure. we dont need anymore guesses.

oh and im pretty sure its not a mobe.

Thomas P. · Addict Joined: 16 Feb 2003 Posts: 717

whirly= NOT a mobe. no handle pass.

313= not a mobe, technically an invert w/ handlepass 3, but most mobes involve roll-type inverts.

Skicross · Soul Rider Joined: 13 Sep 2004 Posts: 301

alright thanks

dmac · Addict Joined: 22 Jul 2003 Posts: 728 City: 405 be-otch

why would it be considered a mobe? a mobe it a tantum with a handle pass 360. it is also a whirlybird with a handle pass. two different tricks with two different names, so why would you call a whirlybird a mobe if they gave it that name for a reason?

dmac · Addict Joined: 22 Jul 2003 Posts: 728 City: 405 be-otch

why would it be considered a mobe? a mobe it a tantum with a handle pass 360. it is also a whirlybird with a handle pass. two different tricks with two different names, so why would you call a whirlybird a mobe if they gave it that name for a reason?

Phil · Addict Joined: 14 Jan 2003 Posts: 636 City: Chattanooga

No dmac a mobe is not just a tantrum with a handle passed 360. Thats called a moby dick but it is a mobe just like a crow mobe is a mobe a KGB is a mobe a pete rose, a dum dum , a slim chance there all mobes . Mobe is not just the name of one trick but some people say a mobe has to be handle passed and some don`t.

Skicross · Soul Rider Joined: 13 Sep 2004 Posts: 301

yeah people use "mobe" to describe dum dums, crowmobe's, moby dicks, kgb's which is why i was wondering if whirly's are part of that group

pooser · Wakeboarder.com Freak Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 4738

would a crow mobe to blind be considered a true mobe? there is no handle pass but you still rotate a 360.

Skicross · Soul Rider Joined: 13 Sep 2004 Posts: 301

http://www.wakepics.com/img/12324

i'm workin on my whirly's, even though i haven't landed any type of invert in a while, tell me what you think

roundbaywakeboard · Posted: Oct 10, 2004 12:11 pm Post subject:

Skicross, what kind of boat are you riding behind? The wake looks like the one behind my Whaler. Word up to tiny wakes!

Skicross · Soul Rider Joined: 13 Sep 2004 Posts: 301

it's a 26' scarab sportster, really big boat, but it has a deep v-hull so the wake is washed out and wide, not tall, what size is your whaler?

lukewtwt · Outlaw Joined: 17 Feb 2003 Posts: 200 City: Memphis

A whirlybird is a mobe. Mobe is short for "mobius," which means "circle within a circle." The connection of this name to a trick came from trick skiing, and applies when a rider does a complete rotation on two axis (up and down axis, toward and away axis). Therefore, any invert plus a 360 is a mobe, handlepass or not. A whirly, being a tantrum and a blind ole 360, is a mobe. If you consider a raley to be an invert (which I do), then an S-bend and a 313 are both mobes, even though there is technically no complete flip.

midwest wake · Addict Joined: 13 Oct 2003 Posts: 629 City: Middleton

lukewtwt, i agree, watch out, just don't call any mobe a mobius, becuase a mobius in wakeboarding is a hs backroll with a fs 360.

boarder52002 · Soul Rider Joined: 27 Jul 2004 Posts: 454 City: Chicago

a whirly is a mobe definately

wakerider07 · Posted: Oct 10, 2004 3:48 pm Post subject:

dont hate cause i don tknow but what constitutes a "mobe"???

Tyler~Moore · Posted: Oct 10, 2004 4:09 pm Post subject:

whirly is a mobe...handle pass doesnt matter. would you say a wrapped kgb or iron cross isnt a mobe? same rotations as kgbs and moby dicks, but not handle pass...

mobious's are also called heelmobes and backside mobes...

alanp · Criminal Joined: 06 Oct 2004 Posts: 52

absolutely its a mobe. handle pass has nothing to do with it. this is a term wakeboarding has adopted not invented.

lukewtwt · Outlaw Joined: 17 Feb 2003 Posts: 200 City: Memphis

midwest wake, actually, "mobe" or "mobius" is a generic term. A hs backroll with a frontside 360 is a hs backroll mobius, aka hs back mobe, or just back mobe. Just the name "mobe" does not imply this trick alone, but means the general definition I stated above. The reason most people think of this trick specifically when someone says "mobe" is because the same trick had been done on a trick ski before there was such a thing as wakeboarding. When wakeboarding came along, so did many more trick possibilities, so the general term "mobe" applies to more tricks than just a back mobe. Not hating, just clarifying so that the question is properly answered.

Jim M · Wakeboarder.com Freak Joined: 17 Jan 2003 Posts: 2933

Sounds like lukewtwt has the most accurate info on this thread.

roundbaywakeboard · Posted: Oct 11, 2004 9:55 am Post subject:

Skicross, my Whaler is a 20' also with a deep V. Bummer..lol It makes riding on wakeboard boats a real privlage though!

midwest wake · Addict Joined: 13 Oct 2003 Posts: 629 City: Middleton

lukewtwt, my bad, i just thought that mobius was the name becuase the tricks name is HS mobius and mobe is an abreviation. agreed.

Guest · Posted: Oct 15, 2004 4:41 pm Post subject:

God damnit son of course its a mobe you dumb picec of stuff come on craigor!

Nick Broadwell · Outlaw Joined: 20 Feb 2004 Posts: 146

congratulations for being better than probley 75 percent of people who have wakeboard boats with their real nice wakes and here your doing whirlys with a really crappy wakes. did u learn your stuff on a nicer wake or have u always ridden behind that boat. its good to see people throwin down with a shitty wake

dumassonwheels89 · Posted: Oct 16, 2004 8:39 pm Post subject:

I'm in the same shitty boat as you guys. I ride a 20' outboard center console bay boat. I put a sack in the back and a single steel bar tower on it. I can do the basic inverts and spins(tanny, bckroll,crow, 5) then I go out on a nice X-30 and all my tricks are wierd and hucked and I realize its because I'm used to rushing my tricks so I get the full rotation in the amount of air time I have.

Skicross · Soul Rider Joined: 13 Sep 2004 Posts: 301

i've never ridden behind a wakeboard boat or any other boat with a bigger wake than that. sometimes i ride behind a malibu sunsetter but 98% of the time it's behind my boat with that crappy wake so i do what i can. my friend and i always feel like it's holdin us back but it's alright cuz it's better than what a lot of people have