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Avedis Newbie


Joined: 10 Sep 2004 Posts: 5 City: Anoka
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Posted: Sep 15, 2004 4:32 am Post subject: Winning the fight against your mind. |
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I've been wakeboarding for a while now. I'm getting to where I'm throwing tricks like a toeside backroll and a tantrum, but neither very well. It's not because I don't know how to do it. For one reason or another, I can't pump myself up enough to just get out there and throw a trick hard. I need some way to build my confidence on the water. When I do try the more difficult tricks I have prblems even then. I get scared just as I start my progressive cut. At this point I start hesitating and thinking about it too much and almost always screw something up. If anybody's got some advice let me know.  |
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bluefish86 Wakeboarder.Commie

Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 1539 City: Ottawa
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Posted: Sep 15, 2004 8:28 am Post subject: |
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Don't think about it. Just go out and have a fun run, then when your pumped, say f*** it and try the trick without even thinking about what could happen.
Also, it helps if you visualize yourself doing the trick first, so you can have a clear image in your head of what to do. That way you can convince yourself that you can make it on the first try, so you have less worries. |
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NorthwestRider Wakeboarder.Commie

Joined: 24 Aug 2004 Posts: 1175 City: Puyallup, WA
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Posted: Sep 15, 2004 9:04 am Post subject: |
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Play your favorite song as loud as you can be for you wakeboard, or a song from a wakeboard video or something. That really helps. A good song to get you pumped is Thursday "For the Workforce, Drowning." Also when you try you tantrum or backroll try to land something kind of hard right before it and then just cut out and cut strait back in so you don't think about it, it will get you in a rythem a little bit. Thats what my friend does when he skateboards like if he wants to like oli a stair set he will do like a 360 flip before he gets to it so hes not really thinking about the stair set, hes worrying about the 360 flip so when he gets there he doesn't have time to wuss out. _________________ www.nationsfoundation.org
http://www.vimeo.com/user497855
www.myspace.com/algebraicsatellite
^more new songs!
www.algebraicsatellite.com/blog
My Electronic Music. |
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gotama176 Soul Rider


Joined: 19 Aug 2004 Posts: 341 City: Columbus
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Posted: Sep 15, 2004 10:31 am Post subject: |
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Try some tunes.... I don't have a tower for my boat so I just have to wait for somebody to go by with theirs cranked before I try and go big Music and pre visualization really seem to help. From what I have heard it really helps to practice on a tramp too. _________________ - "Hurry up and finish your wine so we can go get us some milkshakes " - |
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J_DOGG PityDaFool Who Posts This Much


Joined: 14 Jan 2003 Posts: 5088 City: New Hampshire
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Posted: Sep 15, 2004 11:25 am Post subject: |
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Wakeboard only after 4:20! _________________ PEACE
| Aubs wrote: | | J Dogg - I thought of you last night. |
"Everyone wants a bite, it don't happen over night"! |
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DTBoardin Newbie

Joined: 13 Sep 2004 Posts: 7
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Posted: Sep 15, 2004 1:04 pm Post subject: |
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Purposely bail as hard as possible...may i suggest a raley faceplant... then think to yourself "thats the worst it can get" this was told to me by a quite righteous rider, works for him and me, the best advice i can give. hope it helps.  |
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wkbd Criminal


Joined: 07 Sep 2004 Posts: 96 City: houston
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Posted: Sep 15, 2004 6:02 pm Post subject: |
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tunes definitly tunes
they definitly help specially tunes from your favorite wakeboard videos _________________ i wish i lived in florida...
a friend is someone who will bail you out
a best friend is the one sittin next to you sayin "that was awesome!"
if anyone rides lake conroe in texas pm me |
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Cap'nPimp Outlaw

Joined: 22 Jun 2003 Posts: 131 City: Fenton
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Posted: Sep 15, 2004 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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ya J dogg i hear that.
basically just know what you have to do to accomplish the trick and keep only that in your mind. if you think about what might happen or you psyche yourself out your gonna crash. just know what to do then do it and stick it. _________________ Yabba Dabba Dizzle |
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hyperrider Addict

Joined: 06 Aug 2003 Posts: 613 City: Edmonton
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Posted: Sep 15, 2004 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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| i do the same thing. but then sometimes i get so pissed off that im wussing out that i just say in my head whatever im doing it who cares and then i just go for it. just find a way to say to yourself IM DOING IT and then if you back out it will get you more and mroe pumped |
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YelloJello Newbie


Joined: 31 Jul 2004 Posts: 43 City: San Jose
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Posted: Oct 03, 2004 11:27 am Post subject: |
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i agree with the 4:20, i tried it the 3rd time i wake boarded and was then doing 1/2 w2w consistently "mind free"
tunes helps too, but make sure you can hear it.
have a fine ass chick (or guy if you go that way ) cause for me, titties mean  |
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hyperrider Addict

Joined: 06 Aug 2003 Posts: 613 City: Edmonton
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Posted: Oct 03, 2004 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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cause for me, titties mean
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all i can do is laugh about that one  |
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k9fxr Outlaw

Joined: 07 Mar 2003 Posts: 199 City: MI
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Posted: Oct 04, 2004 4:55 pm Post subject: |
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please explain the 4:20 rule  |
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AccidentProne Outlaw

Joined: 01 Sep 2004 Posts: 113 City: Portland
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Posted: Oct 07, 2004 1:27 pm Post subject: |
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k9fxr 4:20 cuz thats when the waters flat HAHA!!!!!
Loud music gets me pumped up and breaking stuff _________________ I do my own stunts cuz i like to take the risk yo! |
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blairpoelman Addict


Joined: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 595
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Posted: Oct 08, 2004 8:24 am Post subject: |
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Has anyone considered pk's?
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Indonesian cooking
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wakeboarder_dude22 Soul Rider


Joined: 28 Mar 2003 Posts: 409 City: Australia
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Posted: Oct 09, 2004 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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I had the same problem as you until last week where I was getting so angry at myself I just went and tried a big backroll (I can barely clear the wake) and I kinda realised that for tricks like that crashes are necessary, so I tried to incorporate that into my wake jumps, especially TS.
I agree with DTBoardin, go out and try a big, new, hard trick that you know you'll bail on. Then you will realise that crashing is necessary and not that bad, so you will be able to go and really push yourself.
Then all you have to do is get over the fear, which should be much easier if you are really motivated to. It is however, easier said then done. |
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hyperrider Addict

Joined: 06 Aug 2003 Posts: 613 City: Edmonton
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Posted: Oct 11, 2004 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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blairpoelman, what are pk's?  |
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hishy Criminal

Joined: 12 Feb 2003 Posts: 83 City: Bahrain
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Posted: Oct 13, 2004 10:44 pm Post subject: |
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get cheer leaders on your boat.............. always works, cause then you'll think with your other head!  |
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nashvillematt Addict


Joined: 15 Jul 2004 Posts: 823 City: Nashville
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Posted: Oct 14, 2004 8:40 am Post subject: |
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4:20 (???)
I have heard that is the time of day when everybody around the world is in the happiest mood. Or it could be some code name of sorts?
I am a big fan of 4:21. |
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J_DOGG PityDaFool Who Posts This Much


Joined: 14 Jan 2003 Posts: 5088 City: New Hampshire
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Posted: Oct 15, 2004 8:34 am Post subject: |
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k9fxr, I have to assume you are young and shouldn't know if you don't already know...
Talk to your homies in school if they know they will tell you, or they will fill you a bunch of bull like most kids in school try to do about stuff they know nuthn' about.
Go into every trick with confidence! refuse to lose! _________________ PEACE
| Aubs wrote: | | J Dogg - I thought of you last night. |
"Everyone wants a bite, it don't happen over night"! |
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Buergday Guest
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Posted: Oct 15, 2004 11:37 am Post subject: |
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Purposely bail as hard as possible...may i suggest a raley faceplant...
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uuuh....yeah, that sounds like a splendid idea.
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get cheer leaders on your boat.............. always works, cause then you'll think with your other head!
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Now, THAT works - every time. It's a sad but true phenomenon. It's based on the same rule that says: If you're chilling in the boat and see another boat headed for you, with a rider behind it - that rider will try to throw one of his best tricks right next to your boat, 99% of the time.
You just push yourself harder when someone new is watching. |
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Wake_Turner Outlaw

Joined: 28 Feb 2004 Posts: 244 City: kelowna
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Posted: Oct 16, 2004 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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| There is no way to grow balls, either u have it or u dont, that just how it is. If you have it u will just go for it balls out and not psych yourself out. If u have to muster up the courage every time even after the first time u have done it then u wont get anywhere, u just dont have it. some people have it and others dont. it's a mentality u are born with and u cant teach yourself to have it. If you are worried about getting hurt, then u will get hurt. right now u have to decide whether u were born with balls or not, if u are then u should never ever second guess tryign any trick ever again. If u think twice, u just dont have it, no big deal just go out and have fun. You are way more likely to get hurt if u are thinking too much which causes u to hesitate. When u have it u dont have to think u just commit and it gets u a lot further. |
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hyperrider Addict

Joined: 06 Aug 2003 Posts: 613 City: Edmonton
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Posted: Oct 16, 2004 4:38 pm Post subject: |
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There is no way to grow balls, either u have it or u dont, that just how it is.
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If u have to muster up the courage every time even after the first time u have done it then u wont get anywhere, u just dont have it. some people have it and others dont. it's a mentality u are born with and u cant teach yourself
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wrong again.....i had to muster up the courage to try a backroll and i got it. i also taught myself to not worry as much and go for it
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If you are worried about getting hurt, then u will get hurt
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so if you dont worry about it you wont get hurt?
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right now u have to decide whether u were born with balls
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i thought you said you were either born with it or not so how can you decide?
sorry if it seems like im being as a$$hole....but i found your post to be completely opposite of the truth |
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colefooter Wakeboarder.com Freak

Joined: 22 Jun 2003 Posts: 3925 City: Fairborn, OH.
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Posted: Oct 16, 2004 5:24 pm Post subject: |
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hyperrider, made some good points.
dont get careless just go for it though, i really like the cheerleader idea! |
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DJew Jake Wakeboarder.com Freak


Joined: 17 Sep 2003 Posts: 3907 City: Toronto
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Posted: Oct 17, 2004 9:18 am Post subject: |
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4:20 is when you smoke dope....
I dont recommend it it lowers motor skills just go try stuff Pain is temporary. _________________ They know what is what but they dono what is what they just strut. |
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SupraBoarder Wakeboarder.Commie


Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 1316 City: Atlanta GA...Fair Play SC.... and St Petersburg FL
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Posted: Oct 25, 2004 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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I actually agree with one of Wake_Turner's points. If you go into a trick worrying about getting hurt, it usually doesn't turn out very pretty. Especially Raley variations. You can not be thinking about getting hurt going in to these types of tricks, you just have to push that out of your mind and not worry about it. _________________ Weight it, Gas it, Crank it, and just rip. |
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ben8473 Criminal

Joined: 17 Aug 2004 Posts: 86
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Posted: Oct 26, 2004 12:21 pm Post subject: |
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I don't think it is a question of all balls and no brain like WAKE TURNER said, though it was an inspiring post wake turner!
There is a balance and it is a very fine line between balls and stupidity. Stupidity is attempting something that you KNOW you cannot possibly achieve. Attempting something which could and probably will ( If you are not really expecting to pull it off) hurt you badly, like a novice rider attempting a 360 to blind the first time he gets on a board. Balls is knowing that you could possibly pull this off, you have a 50-50 chance. That you have watched the trick performed over and over again. That you have asked anyone who can do it for advice. That you have laid in bed at night and gone over and over it in your mind so that you know mentally that you are ready and there is nothing left to do but go for it 100 percent.
Basically, if you GENUINELY believe you are ready and at a level high enough to try something, then give it a go. Most of us know our own minds and know how far we can push ourselves. Some of us are born or have genuinely developed no fear. But having no fear is a dangerous thing, and definately not an emotion you can fake.
Know yourself, pump yourself up with adrenaline, get girls on board, listen to your fave track.....be brave and give it everything.......But don't be stupid and crawl out of the water with all confidence lost and a shattered body..... |
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Lyle Soul Rider

Joined: 06 Mar 2003 Posts: 433 City: Lake Oswego
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Posted: Nov 05, 2004 8:17 am Post subject: |
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It is kind of ironic how the term 4-20 came about.
I had the biggest mental block learning a Raley. When I first tried them I came super close to landing them. The board would just slide out of under me. Then I really had soem bad falls, on the verge of knocking myself out. After a few years of mental games with myself, the way I finally got it was actually from the trampoline. From the people I talked to they said they were more difficult on the tramp. So spent many hours doing them on the trampoline. I got it down so well I could do them in one bounce, 10 in a row. Then when I went out on the water and finally did it, we had huge wake, so I knew I didn't have to worry about that. I knew I could do it on the trampoline with only about 18" of air. So instead of doing what all the books and tips say about taking a huge cut which results in a whole bunch of speed, I went out about 5 feet from the wake and did it from there. Before doing it I told myself, "I have the perfect wake, the perfect board, and best driver, today is the day that I am going to land a Raley." As they say third time is a charm. Oh and as a side note, I dedicated the trick to my grandma who was recovering from surgery at the time. _________________ Skiing made me board,
Lyle
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