chaning mexi roll to progressive roll

midwest wake · Addict Joined: 13 Oct 2003 Posts: 629 City: Middleton

alright i can do backrolls and i leanred the progressive backroll but now it's gone more to mexican. it's a prog cut and i do it right, but i don't flip end over end. for those of you that have done that and gone back ro prog rolls, what'd you do to cahnge it. i just wanna be comfterable wiht both

J_DOGG · Posted: Sep 15, 2004 3:34 am Post subject:

More speed does it for me.

When I hard-charge a roll I'm very progressive and land in the flats.

When I take a slow smooth approach it's more mexi style and W2W.

midwest wake · Addict Joined: 13 Oct 2003 Posts: 629 City: Middleton

i've tried. still a mexi roll. thanks though. any others?

wakedude83 · Posted: Sep 17, 2004 6:21 am Post subject:

All you have to do is throw your board away from the boat at the wake. Oh, and stop looking down. Mostly the first though. That's it.

Jim M · Wakeboarder.com Freak Joined: 17 Jan 2003 Posts: 2933

Lift straight up off the wake and hold that position a bit longer, so you arent using the wake to 'barrell' into the invert. Waiting on it should help you to take it bigger too.

midwest wake · Addict Joined: 13 Oct 2003 Posts: 629 City: Middleton

well i've done backrolls for a year now and have lost their progressive ness. is it that when i "throw" the backroll i'm letting the board go to far away from under me and not close eneough to the boat. so the wake is /\, i'm goofy and i'm letting it too much this way > so it should be more towards the back of the boat? (man that's confusing) or am i just not squaring my hips?

Jim M · Wakeboarder.com Freak Joined: 17 Jan 2003 Posts: 2933

Be careful thinking about releasing back away from the boat, thats a good way accidentally open your hips and take a painful back dive. What I was saying is to not 'throw' it at all, just release high and use the line tension to complete the invert. If you release like the pic below, and keep the handle at your hips, you should get a good cartwheel rotation. The more line tension and the harder the release, the bigger you will take it.

ben746 · Addict Joined: 04 Aug 2003 Posts: 560

Yeah edge away at the wake. Nice pic Jim Laughing

Great Lakes Rider · Newbie Joined: 03 Aug 2004 Posts: 36

I can't believe no one has said this yet, keep both hands on the handle. Force yourself to do the whole rotation: takeoff, roll, and LANDING all with both hands on the handle. That's what I did to relearn the b-roll the right way. It will also help you learn R2R down the road a lot easier.

Oh yeah, and look up and over your lead shoulder, not down like a front flip on a trampoline.

Good Luck

Later...

midwest wake · Addict Joined: 13 Oct 2003 Posts: 629 City: Middleton

yeah i look over my shoulder but i do a mexi roll. i just say a picture of me doing one the other day and the handle position is pure stuff. it looks like it's level with my chin.
can't get out much anymore, fall weather means more wind. man and it's too hard to get my parents to drive.

Great Lakes Rider, your right i found my self taking my back hand off right away. that just might do it.

wviveen · Addict Joined: 03 Mar 2003 Posts: 705 City: Loosdrecht

I have the same problem, got them down first (progressive) but now i am doing the
mexi 'thing'. It looks horrible but i cant seem to change it.

But here also the weather is changing and autumn is coming. So i will probably
have to wait untill next season. Puppy Eyes

wviveen · Addict Joined: 03 Mar 2003 Posts: 705 City: Loosdrecht

I will post a vid me doing them tonight, maybe you guys could have a look at them...