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PostPosted: May 06, 2004 6:57 am    Post subject: malibu sunsetter? Reply with quote

a friend of mine has a 99 with a titan tower......He puts the wedge down, and no sacs.....his rope length is about 60ft....I have edged and cut like hell and I can't get any height on my jumps.....I can clear the wake easy....but maybe 3ft of air tops...... (I can get plenty of height behind my boat)

I think he needs lengthen the rope (a lot) .....ad at least 1 sack......anyway if anyone rides behind this boat or a malibu with a similar hull.....please post pics of your wake, rope length, something...... what would you suggest for this boat...... I thought the hull was similar to the wakesetter?

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PostPosted: May 06, 2004 7:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I rode behind one last night. It's '01 Sunsetter LX (Direct Drive). He just had the wedge, and a sac in the ski locker. The wake was alright. I rode behind the same boat a few weeks back, but with a Fat Seat in the back and the wake was noticably bigger. I did have to ride on a shorter rope (65') than usual, to get to the sweet spot at 21 mph.

Another buddy has a '99 Sunsetter VLX (v-drive), with a 550 in the walkthru, and a 550 in each v-drive compartment, the wake is LARGE. No wedge. I can ride 75' on that boat and be in the sweet spot.

IMO, the wedge can sometimes have adverse effects on the wake size and shape. Just my opinion, though.

I'll try and dig up some pics.

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PostPosted: May 06, 2004 7:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the hull is the exact same as the wakesetter, which needs tons of weight for a real good wake, wedge alone will do nothing for that boat
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PostPosted: May 06, 2004 7:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a wakesetter. As said in a previous post, this "hull designed specifically for wakeboarding" stuff is BS. The wake is ok with 600# in the locker and the wedge, but nothing to write home about. "Wake"setter. Jackasses.
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PostPosted: May 06, 2004 8:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, a boat owner hatin' on his own ride! That's a first Laughing
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PostPosted: May 06, 2004 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

for the best wake in a VLX, you need:

400-500 pounds of lead under the front seats (or a sac in the walk through)
550 in the ski locker
550 on either side of the engine in back (1100 total).

bringing the total to aruond 2200#'s...

wakes don't get much better than that.

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PostPosted: May 06, 2004 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'm not ripping on the boats at all, i think the fact that the boat is just a rebadged version of the "sunsetter" should tell you enough about the wake "specificity" (is that a word)
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PostPosted: May 06, 2004 9:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

2,200lbs man I bet that eats a lot of $2.00/gal gas......thank god for my i/o - with one sac in the bow I can ride all day on about 10 gallons! oh well I guess thats the price you pay for a good wake.........
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PostPosted: May 06, 2004 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

02 DD Wakesetter, 75' rope, 23mph.



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PostPosted: May 06, 2004 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

how much weight?
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PostPosted: May 06, 2004 10:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wedge down or up?
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PostPosted: May 06, 2004 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wedge down, MLS (500#), 500# in the bow and 6 or 7 people.

I now have two 750 big bumps and I'll try to get pics of the wake this weekend.

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PostPosted: May 06, 2004 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks I sent my buddy one of your pics! Wink
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PostPosted: May 06, 2004 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Wow, a boat owner hatin' on his own ride! That's a first


Dude, I love my boat, but I don't love how the wake gets so hyped up, then turns out to be not any better than my buddy's i/o UNWEIGHTED wake.

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Wedge down, MLS (500#), 500# in the bow and 6 or 7 people.



That's a lot of people and 500# in addition to the stock ballast. NOW the wake is soemthing special, but WTF? They can't come up with a design that puts out a wake like that without all the extra weight?

I'm starting to think that all wakeboarding boats are is a ski-boat hull with minor tweaks that we are all just supposed to accept the fact that they aren't that special without a thousand extra pounds of balast.


Mcfatty, I have the 2003. Your MLS, I assume, is in the ski locker like mine is? So you have weitht in the middle, weight int he bow, and the wedge at the back, right?

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PostPosted: May 06, 2004 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have an 01 VLX... I tore out the MLS the first week I had the boat, and installed a Hypo system. I have 800lbs in the ski locker, and 600lbs on each side of the engine. I also have some railroad rail under the bow seats. That combo is nice.
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PostPosted: May 06, 2004 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

camera, for once I agree with you......why cant they make a heavy boat that you don't have to add so much weight to wakeboard specific? the wake on my i/o is huge with just one sack in the bow......granted its not as easy to drive.....the wake is wonderful and easy to achieve
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PostPosted: May 06, 2004 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Mcfatty, I have the 2003. Your MLS, I assume, is in the ski locker like mine is? So you have weitht in the middle, weight int he bow, and the wedge at the back, right?


Correct. Keeping in mind the wedge is a 1000# and nobody sits up front much. There had to be more weight for the bow.

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PostPosted: May 06, 2004 11:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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why cant they make a heavy boat that you don't have to add so much weight to wakeboard specific?


I think I've only been behind one boat that didn't have ANY additional ballast (besides people and 150 lbs of lead to balance) and made a respectable wakeboard wake, was the Tige 24V. But, it had 6-10 people in it and uses TAPS. But the wake was sweet.

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PostPosted: May 06, 2004 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

2k lbs and 2 people, no wedge



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