do nautiques have a "wakeplate" as part of the bal

midwesty

just curious if the only wake "accessory" is the ballast or if they have something that combines the 2

thanks

Bruky · Guest

its the ballast. you wouldnt want a wake plate anyways, well in most cases. the moomba/supra wakeplate is great, but the malibu's wedge ruins the wake. the plate on the bu's are more of a gimmic than a real wake enhancing device. i hope you arent planning on buying a new nautique, because you need to do a LOT more research before an investment like that, my friend Wink

Jon · Wakeboarder.Commie Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 1176

Nautique has something called the hydro-gate on their SV-211. It acts the same as Tige's Taps system or Skiers Choice's wakeplate. Rather than making the wake bigger, it helps shape it.

midwesty · Posted: May 05, 2004 6:32 pm Post subject:

i c...as far as research i have done it....but the lady that owns the boat is "convinced" that there is a plate back there....i was pretty sure they only had ballast but then again i have seen much crazier chit out there

Bruky · Guest

what model boat, there are tons of nautiques out there...

midwesty · Posted: May 05, 2004 6:43 pm Post subject:

2001 super air nautique

Bruky · Guest

are you buying it? gotta love the super airs...

midwesty · Posted: May 05, 2004 6:52 pm Post subject:

yes...unless the lady REALLY misrepresents the condition of the boat it will be sold on saturday, but then again with my luck it will get sold underneath me Puppy Eyes

Wkerat · Soul Rider Joined: 29 Jan 2003 Posts: 317

It shoulsn't have a plate back there...They are all personal things as to if they work, like me, I have a wedge and love the way it shapes the wake, but on my friends GG Supra 2 if us hate it and one likes it...

Bruky · Guest

awww...

is this woman you are buying it from elderly? seems like that because of the use of the word "lady". if so, why is she selling it, or for that matter, why does she have it?

billm · Soul Rider Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 476 City: TX

billm · Soul Rider Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 476 City: TX

heres a pic of a wedged 02 malibu vlx if you can find something wrong with this wake let me know..its one of the best ive ever hit..

surfsup · Outlaw Joined: 30 Jan 2004 Posts: 118 City: Orlando

Definitely no wake plate on a SAN. Perhaps she's referring to the tunable rudder or she's added an accessory to the boat....

Bruky · Guest

i rode on an 01 vlx and a brand new 2004 lsv that was just purchased as a first time boats by my neighbors. that wake looks great, but the vlx wake i was on was just bad. it had the standard ballast full, and the wedge down, with 5 people in it. it was way washy with the wedge down, and it was still washy and unsupported feeling without the wedge down. i didnt like the boats wake, but thats preference, but i do know for sure that when the wedge was down, it didnt do anything noticable accept use up more gas. on the lsv, the stock ballast was full, and the wedge was down, and when we took the wedge off, the entire wake felt excactly the same, and i am a very picky rider. i know the boat wasnt weighted with any sacs, and only factory ballast, but the wake wasnt up to par with my friends mobius with the wedge down, the only other boat i have ridden behind that has a wedge and is non-malibu.

watsoc · Addict Joined: 23 Feb 2004 Posts: 574 City: Anthem

I just rode a Tige 21V Rider's Edition yesterday with the Taps system and it definately makes a huge difference. Not only did it increase the size of the wake but it made the wake more peaked and firmer. It is also pretty nice in that you can adapt the wake to the different types of riders that may be on the boat. I don't know about the SAN wedge but on the Tige with the Taps system it was pretty sweet.

Ruune · Posted: May 07, 2004 6:26 am Post subject:

thats right about the TAPS, plus you dont have just "up" and "down" settings. The best use I've found for it is to load up on weight and mess with the TAPS setting in order to actually shape the lip of the wake. Didnt know there was a 21v tho :p.

No0ne · Criminal Joined: 02 May 2003 Posts: 65

Sorry, but need to correct this for the sake of conversations.........................

I quote"....it slightly increases the size of the wake but mostly it makes the wake much harder and peakier."
"i understand why some would not like a harder peakier wake"

Just a little physical science teachers knowledge. Matter(atoms and stuff) can neither be created or destroyed, just rearranged (changed.. ie... water to gas to ice, etc,etc ...) and since water is still water when wakeboarding it cannot become "harder" than the water it is.. Plus not even sure peakier is a word, but I got the point (greater angle of water at wake). Just semantics or the bastardization of English Very Happy

Have a nice day all.

Ruune · Posted: May 07, 2004 7:41 am Post subject:

No0ne · Criminal Joined: 02 May 2003 Posts: 65

#1 Dictionary.com has no listing for the word "Peakier".
#2 On the web , the only definiton for "peakier" is "slightly ill, often looking pale", which has not to do with water or shapes!
#3 Water(one gram per milliliter, depending upon temp of water) is still water, whether it is mixed with bubbles or not, and water is not any less or more "harder" in either situation, but you ramp(wake) is not solid due to air(less dense than water, 1.239 milligrams per cubic centimeter), not that the water(more dense than air) is less hard or more hard. Water, unless minerals are added( ie... salt , etc...hence the ocean) will be the same density regardless of how much air you add!
You might want to think your thoughts through and do some research before you speak.
Once again semantics.

King of the Tigers · Posted: May 07, 2004 11:28 am Post subject:

NoOne, get off it dude.

The U.S. ski jump team uses a pool for their practices during the summer.

They start shooting air bubbles through the water before the jumper hits it to make the impact softer.

So, if a boat happened to add air bubbles to a wake through the hull design then the wake would in fact feel softer.

That is what this is about. I've personally been behind boats with "softer" and "harder" wakes.

King of the Tigers · Posted: May 07, 2004 11:37 am Post subject:

sorry, double post

Bruky · Guest

THANK YOU KING OF THE TIGERS! this guy sounds like my biology teacher last year in 9th. she told all 6 of us wakeboarders in her class that it is physically impossible to do an air ralley, and come back into position to land. she did her own little experiment, and it failed. i went to the lake with 2 of my friends in that class, and we got video of me doing it from many angles. we ended up getting extra credit Mr. Green