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chavez Ladies Man


Joined: 22 Sep 2003 Posts: 27375 City: Roseville
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Posted: Jun 11, 2014 7:29 am Post subject: Cantor's Defeat - TP nonsense or open primary shenanigans? |
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If the Tea Party really orchestrated this, then "bravo" on one hand, and a WTF were you thinking on the other.
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If this is due to VA's "open" registration system, and an effort by Dems to oust Cantor by voting for his opposition.... well I don't know if I should say kudos to them or worry for CA and our open primary system.
What is for sure, is this is very interesting. The local TV viewers should be gearing up for nothing but political attack ads for the next 5 months... _________________
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goofyboy Wakeboarder.com Freak


Joined: 19 Jul 2004 Posts: 4463 City: Houston
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Posted: Jun 11, 2014 7:47 am Post subject: |
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Cantor was one of the few getting anything done in Washington. The TP folks are too much of a line in the sand. You have to lose one battle to win others. Let the illegal kids have a chance at citizenship in exchange for, oh, I don't know, getting rid of Common Core and the national department of education or something HUGE like that.
This was the same issue I had with Ron Paul. I agree with 95% of what the man said. However, I knew that there was no way anything would get done. You can't vote no on everything and expect anyone to back you. It's ugly, but it's politics. At some point, you have to give a little. Rand gets that and I am worried that the TP folks will not back him for this. _________________ Work SUX! |
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jt09 Ladies Man


Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Posts: 22083 City: Austin
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Posted: Jun 11, 2014 7:55 am Post subject: |
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jryoung Ladies Man


Joined: 19 Mar 2004 Posts: 7664 City: Man Jose
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Posted: Jun 11, 2014 8:03 am Post subject: |
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From a FB conversation with someone that covered him for several years.
"Eric was a weak leader--more of a ladder climber than a leader. His constituency knew that. He never felt comfortable with them. They never felt comfortable with him. And when he stopped showing up in the district the window for attack of "He's more DC than one of us" was wide open." _________________
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eeven73 PityDaFool Who Posts This Much


Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Posts: 5377 City: Halfway
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Posted: Jun 11, 2014 8:15 am Post subject: |
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I'm like
anyone thinking immigration reform will move forward is
He needs to resign his post as Majority Leader post haste. _________________ Is President Obama a Keynesian? |
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Okie Boarder Ladies Man


Joined: 03 Mar 2008 Posts: 10056 City: Edmond
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Posted: Jun 11, 2014 8:40 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | If this is due to VA's "open" registration system, and an effort by Dems to oust Cantor by voting for his opposition.... well I don't know if I should say kudos to them or worry for CA and our open primary system. |
I bet it is more of this and bet you will see this same thing in CA. _________________ If love is blind, why is lingerie so popular? |
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Okie Boarder Ladies Man


Joined: 03 Mar 2008 Posts: 10056 City: Edmond
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Posted: Jun 11, 2014 8:41 am Post subject: |
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goofyboy, I would agree that Ron could get more support if he gave a little - at least for a long enough period of time to effect change and where he could be in a better position to be more rigid. _________________ If love is blind, why is lingerie so popular? |
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E.J. Ladies Man


Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 7597 City: Mogadishu
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Nor*Cal Ladies Man


Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 9479 City: Sac
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Posted: Jun 12, 2014 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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It's not an issue of open primary... Open primaries favor leadership and moderates.
Cantor should have taken notes from Frank Underwood, "Vote your district, vote you conscience, don't surprise me..."
He didn't vote his district in favor of bigger steps, rather than incremental progress. _________________ If I agreed with you we would both be wrong. |
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Nor*Cal Ladies Man


Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 9479 City: Sac
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Posted: Jun 12, 2014 3:57 pm Post subject: |
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| jryoung wrote: | From a FB conversation with someone that covered him for several years.
"Eric was a weak leader--more of a ladder climber than a leader. His constituency knew that. He never felt comfortable with them. They never felt comfortable with him. And when he stopped showing up in the district the window for attack of "He's more DC than one of us" was wide open." |
I know several congressional staffers that agree with this...
That said CA is sitting pretty is Kevin McCarthy takes over. _________________ If I agreed with you we would both be wrong. |
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