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randyr12 Newbie

Joined: 16 Aug 2011 Posts: 5 City: Atlanta
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Posted: Jan 16, 2012 11:40 am Post subject: What to get for 60k |
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I want to spend in the area of 60k for a new or slightly used wakeboard boat. We will be using it for id say 60%wakeboard 35%wakesurf and 5% for water skiing. I have done reserch and went to the boat show and talked to as many people as i could. I have to say that I am very impressed with the Mastercraft X25. I have ridden this wake and it is very nice. This boat also has surf trim tabs. Anyone know how well they work?? I could get a slightly used one for 70-80k which is a little steep for me. I think if the surf tabs are that legit, I would be willing to fork out the extra$ for the mastercraft. My other top choices would be
11/12 Supra 22 Launch
08/09 SAN 210
11/12 Axis (A22)
I really want a good wakesurf wake as we are getting older and I have a feeling we will begin to do more wakesurfing as time goes on. Any comments or opinions are greatly appreciated!!
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Okie Boarder Ladies Man


Joined: 03 Mar 2008 Posts: 10056 City: Edmond
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Posted: Jan 16, 2012 11:52 am Post subject: |
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Check in with Chattwake on here...he has his Axis up for sale, if he hasn't sold it already.
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Suprahunter Soul Rider

Joined: 28 Apr 2008 Posts: 486 City: Lowell
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Posted: Jan 16, 2012 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Marine Max has a sweet 09 210 SANTE . There are others on Planetnautique.
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JoLo_Si Criminal

Joined: 24 May 2011 Posts: 87 City: Orlando
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Posted: Jan 17, 2012 7:02 am Post subject: |
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| I would pick up Chatt's whip if I had the ends. He has that thing completely hooked up, it looks sick and you know it's well maintained.
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Commodore Ladies Man


Joined: 20 Jun 2005 Posts: 11636
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Posted: Jan 17, 2012 2:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Okie Boarder wrote: | | Check in with Chattwake on here...he has his Axis up for sale, if he hasn't sold it already. |
Pretty much spot on here man. If you want a helluva boat with great versatility, and already tricked out. You would seriously give him a shot. He's about as detailed as I am ( ) with his boats, and they are always in tip-top shape.
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h2obug Soul Rider

Joined: 10 Aug 2003 Posts: 450 City: Muncie, IN
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Posted: Jan 17, 2012 2:54 pm Post subject: 2012 Supra 22V Worlds |
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I will have my 2012 Supra 22V Worlds for sale in July with about 150 hours when I get my 2013. I have posted a pic.
But if you want a boat today I can get you the 2012 actual boat that pulled of the Worlds in Indy. (Red). PM me if you want more info.

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randyr12 Newbie

Joined: 16 Aug 2011 Posts: 5 City: Atlanta
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Posted: Jan 17, 2012 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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| I am going to drive one (supra) this weekend. I will let you know about yours. That is a very nice boat!
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Chattwake Wakeboarder.com Freak


Joined: 01 Jul 2005 Posts: 4064 City: Chattanooga
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Posted: Jan 17, 2012 7:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Haha Lmk if you want any details on my boat. Basically, it's a solid black 11 a22 with the raptor 400, full wetsounds system, and only 84 hours.
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bmock50 Outlaw

Joined: 27 Jan 2011 Posts: 117 City: Dodge City
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Posted: Jan 17, 2012 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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chattwake's a22+for sale sign=nuff said
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chawk610 Addict


Joined: 06 Jul 2010 Posts: 668 City: Fort Worth
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Posted: Jan 18, 2012 7:09 am Post subject: |
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Ditto... never seen a sicker boat than his blacked out Axis. Run... go get it!
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venko7 Newbie


Joined: 28 Jul 2010 Posts: 42 City: Durban, South Africa
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Posted: Jan 18, 2012 7:46 am Post subject: |
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| That axis will definitely be worth the money! Its an awesome boat.
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buckthis Wakeboarder.Commie

Joined: 22 Jan 2003 Posts: 1058 City: Orlando
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Posted: Jan 19, 2012 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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Randy, If you test all those boats, hit the wakes and surf the wake you probably will go with the 08/09 SAN 210
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randyr12 Newbie

Joined: 16 Aug 2011 Posts: 5 City: Atlanta
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Posted: Jan 20, 2012 5:41 am Post subject: |
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| I have always loved nautiques! Ive wakeboarded behind several but never surfed. I heard they are not great surf boats on regular side but pretty decent on goofy. I know I cant go wrong with any of these boats, I just want to have as much info and opinions as I can get. Does anyone else not think the x25 is the way to go? The storage, the finish, and the wake on that boat are unreal. Im just not sure if I want to spend 75k.
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chawk610 Addict


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Posted: Jan 20, 2012 6:42 am Post subject: |
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I think Mastercrafts are great boats... I really do, but I think they are a tad overpriced considering all the other makers out there. Heck, you could get a brand new MOJO for less than you are wanting to spend!
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Chattwake Wakeboarder.com Freak


Joined: 01 Jul 2005 Posts: 4064 City: Chattanooga
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Posted: Jan 20, 2012 8:18 am Post subject: |
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| The 210 is an awesome boat. I thought hard about buying one. The WB wake is awesome and the surf wave is nice too. The boat is very well built, has some nice bling, and will hold its value well. However, the 210 was just too small for me. It's a pretty cramped boat overall. However, for someone who doesn't ride with that many folks, or doesn't have kids, it's fine. The A22 is much roomier on the inside. I love the wakes behind both the A22 and the 210. I will say that the A22 wake, imo, can get bigger than the 210 wake. Both boats surf equally well, provided you have the new A22 rear platform. Can't go wrong with either boat.
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slidin_out Soul Rider

Joined: 05 Mar 2010 Posts: 353 City: Pearl
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Posted: Jan 20, 2012 8:18 am Post subject: |
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| chawk610 wrote: | | I think Mastercrafts are great boats... I really do, but I think they are a tad overpriced considering all the other makers out there. Heck, you could get a brand new MOJO for less than you are wanting to spend! |
Yep my riding buddy just picked up a 2012 Mojo with no tower speakers but every other option for a touch over 50k. That would leave you a lot of money for upgrading the sound system (he plans on Rev10's for the tower) and the most important thing...GAS money.
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Suprahunter Soul Rider

Joined: 28 Apr 2008 Posts: 486 City: Lowell
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Posted: Jan 21, 2012 5:49 am Post subject: |
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| randyr12 wrote: | | I have always loved nautiques! Ive wakeboarded behind several but never surfed. I heard they are not great surf boats on regular side but pretty decent on goofy. I know I cant go wrong with any of these boats, I just want to have as much info and opinions as I can get. Does anyone else not think the x25 is the way to go? The storage, the finish, and the wake on that boat are unreal. Im just not sure if I want to spend 75k. |
That is true on 2006 and older 210s because of prop rotation surf wake is better on the starboard side. Any 2007 and up will do fine on both sides.
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Joined: 01 Oct 2003 Posts: 5601 City: Door Knob
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Posted: Jan 23, 2012 2:34 pm Post subject: |
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I could buy a couple nice boats for $60k...
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Joined: 06 Jul 2010 Posts: 668 City: Fort Worth
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Posted: Jan 24, 2012 6:10 am Post subject: |
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| slidin_out wrote: | | chawk610 wrote: | | I think Mastercrafts are great boats... I really do, but I think they are a tad overpriced considering all the other makers out there. Heck, you could get a brand new MOJO for less than you are wanting to spend! |
Yep my riding buddy just picked up a 2012 Mojo with no tower speakers but every other option for a touch over 50k. That would leave you a lot of money for upgrading the sound system (he plans on Rev10's for the tower) and the most important thing...GAS money. |
Slidin out... is your buddy on the Moomba forum too? We are all dying for reviews over there!
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chawk610 Addict


Joined: 06 Jul 2010 Posts: 668 City: Fort Worth
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Posted: Jan 24, 2012 6:11 am Post subject: |
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One idea... buy a 20K boat and 2 acres if lake front property! I could live in a tent on the weekends!
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slidin_out Soul Rider

Joined: 05 Mar 2010 Posts: 353 City: Pearl
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Posted: Jan 25, 2012 7:35 am Post subject: |
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he is not on the moomba forum, as soon as we ride behind it i'll post up a review on here, i'm hoping he lets me add an extra 500-600 lbs of sacks in it too but it being brand new i don't know that he will since he hates riding behind my 03 sante sacked out
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chawk610 Addict


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Posted: Jan 25, 2012 8:13 am Post subject: |
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Cool, I can't wait... is it the yellow one Dallas Ski had?
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Posted: Jan 30, 2012 11:04 am Post subject: |
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got a 2012 MB 23 TEam Widebody that would fit that budget no problem... only 25 hours.
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slidin_out Soul Rider

Joined: 05 Mar 2010 Posts: 353 City: Pearl
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Posted: Jan 30, 2012 11:34 am Post subject: |
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| chawk610 wrote: | | Cool, I can't wait... is it the yellow one Dallas Ski had? |
No Lee County Inboards in North Mississippi had it at the Jackson, MS, boat show. It is red, black, and white. Weather keeps screwing us up. It's mid 70's during the week and then drops back down to the low 60's on the weekend. He won't go in that temp. I'm dumb enough too but he won't.
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augie Criminal


Joined: 25 Jun 2008 Posts: 54 City: KC
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Posted: Feb 01, 2012 12:51 pm Post subject: |
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are 21' san's good for wakesurfing? I thought I head otherwise, but could be wrong.
I'd search for a 23' lsv, vride or 22 axis. or just screw the budget and get the tige' z3.
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roomservice Newbie

Joined: 30 Sep 2006 Posts: 38 City: Houston
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Posted: Feb 01, 2012 4:11 pm Post subject: |
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pm sent
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slidin_out Soul Rider

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Posted: Apr 01, 2012 6:46 pm Post subject: |
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| slidin_out wrote: | | chawk610 wrote: | | Cool, I can't wait... is it the yellow one Dallas Ski had? |
No Lee County Inboards in North Mississippi had it at the Jackson, MS, boat show. It is red, black, and white. Weather keeps screwing us up. It's mid 70's during the week and then drops back down to the low 60's on the weekend. He won't go in that temp. I'm dumb enough too but he won't. |
We finally got to take a set behind the Mojo. River was almost at flood stage so the water wasn't that smooth. But with the factory ballast loaded up the wake was solid. Not sure I like it quite as much as my old 210 wake but it is night and day better than his 07 Outback V he had. He tried to surf behind it but with 4 people on one side and only the right rear full the surf wake was not good at all. I figure you probably need one of those L shaped sacs on top of the seats and a few more people to get a good surf wake. Basically it needs a lot of weight to surf behind it. Their version of PP worked spot on. It held a very constant speed. Fit and finish seemed WAY better than the Outback V he had. And it has a TON of room in it. You could add a lot of additional weight to the boat.
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chawk610 Addict


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Posted: Apr 02, 2012 3:22 am Post subject: |
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Hmmm... it is a bigger boat, I am suprised it doesn't come more ready to surf though. Especially since they changed the swim deck to accomodate surfing.
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slidin_out Soul Rider

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Posted: Apr 03, 2012 12:27 pm Post subject: |
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yeah my friend loves to surf and i think he was a little disappointed that his new boat put out such a crappy surf wake, it didn't matter where we put the trim tab either
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Posted: Apr 03, 2012 5:15 pm Post subject: |
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| slidin_out wrote: | | yeah my friend loves to surf and i think he was a little disappointed that his new boat put out such a crappy surf wake, it didn't matter where we put the trim tab either |
Did he demo the surf wake before he bought the boat?
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Chattwake Wakeboarder.com Freak


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Posted: Apr 04, 2012 5:01 am Post subject: |
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| This is why you should ALWAYS demo demo demo before you buy.
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slidin_out Soul Rider

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Posted: Apr 04, 2012 1:42 pm Post subject: |
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he drove the boat across the lake and back with the sacks full but didn't check the surf wake or ride behind it, i told him we just needed to sack that bad boy out and all would be well, "no sacs in the new boat"....wtf??? oh and he chose that boat over an Axis A22 because the Axis didn't look as refined on the interior
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Chattwake Wakeboarder.com Freak


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Posted: Apr 05, 2012 6:53 am Post subject: |
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| Well, that sucks. Oh well. Every buyer has his or her own priorities. I gave up a lot of fit and finish to go with an Axis because the wake was the best I'd ridden and the surf wave was nice as well. Almost every boat needs sacs to get a great wake and wave. Hopefully, your friend will figure this out. I'd like to see some pictures of a sacked out surf wave and wakeboard wake behind a mojo.
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randyr12 Newbie

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Posted: Apr 06, 2012 5:01 am Post subject: |
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Put a deposit on a New 2011 Supra Launch 22V today. This boat just fit us better than any other boat we looked at. The price was pretty sweet as well!! Atlanta Marine in Atlanta is really a top notch Boat Dealership![/img]

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slidin_out Soul Rider

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Posted: Apr 06, 2012 9:35 am Post subject: |
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| Chattwake wrote: | | Well, that sucks. Oh well. Every buyer has his or her own priorities. I gave up a lot of fit and finish to go with an Axis because the wake was the best I'd ridden and the surf wave was nice as well. Almost every boat needs sacs to get a great wake and wave. Hopefully, your friend will figure this out. I'd like to see some pictures of a sacked out surf wave and wakeboard wake behind a mojo. |
Taking my sacs with us tomorrow so hopefully we can get his surf wake dialed in for him and add a little extra to the regular wake. I'll try to take pics.
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