backflip attempt video montage

turbohoje · Outlaw Joined: 14 Aug 2008 Posts: 117 City: thornton

any advice? i'm not sure how i'm going to hang onto the rope.

http://vimeo.com/5821370

kriggs · Posted: Jul 29, 2009 3:54 pm Post subject:

First, I would like to say that wetsuit is amazing.
Second, I think the trick your trying is a backroll.
Check out this link.. http://test.waketrix.com/view_clip.php?id=108 it should help you out...

Prizzy · Soul Rider Joined: 06 Jun 2008 Posts: 360 City: Milwaukee

Why are letting go of the rope so early??? from what i have learned about the trick alot of it you use the line tension to lean against during the flip and with out the lean or tension this practice session will feel nothing like the real flip and you wont be on the same axis as you would when you hold on to the rope. if your going to try this trick and let go let go after your board touches the water or just man up and do it son.

kriggs · Posted: Jul 29, 2009 4:45 pm Post subject:

Christobull · Addict Joined: 29 Jun 2009 Posts: 898 City: Tulsa

hrwake · Newbie Joined: 13 Feb 2008 Posts: 46

after watching the last few attempts a few times to make out what you were doing, it seems that you are trying a tantrum but it seems like a ts backroll, like Christobull said, because you are completely perpendicular to the boat and rope (facing the boat). your main problem, besides letting go of the rope (youll just have to make yourself do that), is that you should be in line with the rope and boat when you hit the wake. that is the only way you can get the trip motion and have the right rotation for the flip. for a full instructional youll have to go to wakeworld or waketrix, theyll give you all the info you want. but i hope my explanation helped some and keep going for it, you'll just get better.

Prizzy · Soul Rider Joined: 06 Jun 2008 Posts: 360 City: Milwaukee

Learnwake has the best instruction IMO... well worth the money and you can cancel it off season too so your not payng for a worthless subscription.

Enygma · Soul Rider Joined: 26 Jul 2009 Posts: 356

Why are you letting go of the rope? Only time I let go of the rope is when It's dragging me on the water.

And for gods sake get a better camera man. I've seen worse. But That was brinking on the point of unwatchable. This whole new youtube generation needs to heed these words.

The worst are the video where something crazy happens and the camera guy faces the camera to the ground during all the aftermath, Like WTF.

Christobull · Addict Joined: 29 Jun 2009 Posts: 898 City: Tulsa

Enygma, don't forget telling the cameraman to shut up too. Laughing

Not so much in his video, but that will drive you nuts.

Gir · Newbie Joined: 12 Jul 2009 Posts: 7

It seems like you are releasing the rope before you even reach the wake. That's why you don't get a lot of air. You look good at flipping though. Try at least holding on to the rope until you get the pop from the wake. But then again, I've never landed a backroll myself, yet, so good luck.

turbohoje · Outlaw Joined: 14 Aug 2008 Posts: 117 City: thornton

i was def throwing the rope away before hitting the wake. i didnt want my shoulder to get pulled out or anything while i was first trying to invert, i wanted to make sure i had an idea of what i was supposed to do first. i'm prbly doing something totally different but at least i broke my invert cherry.

thanks for the waketrix link. i have checked out learnwake but havent tried it officially or anything. i remember finding waketrix a long time ago on youtube but then lost it.

not knowing, i was just trying to do a traditional trampoline backflip with a board on my feet. if my axis of rotation differs a bit from the waketrix vid, will the board typically come back around underneath me?

as for the camera (wo)man, i'm just happy someone is willing to take a video. i always end up with lots of pics and video of everybody else and not myself. its a lot to ask for someone to hold a camera instead of a beer.

whats wrong with my wetsuit? would a pink one be better? haha

turbohoje · Outlaw Joined: 14 Aug 2008 Posts: 117 City: thornton

lucky me. learnwake has the backroll as a demo right now.

Christobull · Addict Joined: 29 Jun 2009 Posts: 898 City: Tulsa

turbohoje, was that the right trick? You can do a YouTube search and find the Relentless Energy one, but it's not as informative.

Prizzy · Soul Rider Joined: 06 Jun 2008 Posts: 360 City: Milwaukee

go to bestbuy and by a cheap tripod so they can hold as many beers as they want.... thats what we does.

Christobull · Addict Joined: 29 Jun 2009 Posts: 898 City: Tulsa

STANG KILLA SS · Posted: Jul 30, 2009 7:39 am Post subject:

LOOKS like id work on basics before the backroll
your cut in is no good. the opposite of a progressive edge.
i think i watched 3 cuts and you cut WAY out, then lean into your edge HARD right away and then halfway in you lay OFF your edge and coast in.
id work on that first. will help your riding progress alot faster in the future.

i know nothing about backrolls got no help for ya there Laughing

kent2010 · Soul Rider Joined: 14 Jun 2008 Posts: 281 City: Needles

you are letting go of the rope which is causing you to come around switch when you start to flip, which is making you do a roll to revert type thing but with the 180 really early. also when you let go like that your completly missing the good part of the wake and drifting back to the washed out part.

i did this too when i tried my first inverts, but you know, i was 8. Twisted Evil

turbohoje · Outlaw Joined: 14 Aug 2008 Posts: 117 City: thornton

thanks for the advice

i'm hopefully going to try a learnwake style backroll today while holding the rope. i was not holding a progressive edge bec i was expecting to throw the rope away but was attempting to make speed before hitting the wake, not right up to it.

does it feel like i'll be rolling over my behind leg, then turing it into a front flip under the rope (as in i'm following my way around the rope)? thats what it kindof looks like to me.

Christobull · Addict Joined: 29 Jun 2009 Posts: 898 City: Tulsa

turbohoje, it took me a minute, but I realize that you're describing a Mexican backroll (or an ugly backroll). You should be doing a reverse cartwheel style rotation, tip over tail flip. If you do it the other way, you can't spot your landing as easy.

WilsonH · Posted: Jul 30, 2009 3:37 pm Post subject:

I've never heard of a Mexican Backroll Shocked

Christobull · Addict Joined: 29 Jun 2009 Posts: 898 City: Tulsa

WilsonH, It looks like a TS backroll on your HS flipping forward over your toes. Lets you do different types of grabs.

Prizzy · Soul Rider Joined: 06 Jun 2008 Posts: 360 City: Milwaukee

turbohoje, i regs backroll should just feel like a big lofty cartwheel.

kent2010 · Soul Rider Joined: 14 Jun 2008 Posts: 281 City: Needles

a mexican backroll also allows you to throw it to blind easier.

WilsonH · Posted: Jul 30, 2009 9:56 pm Post subject:

Ah I see. I just didn't know what that was called.

ronix14 · Newbie Joined: 06 Aug 2009 Posts: 48

Dude you pretty much have it just hold onto the rope and hold it close to your waist and you'll land it.

turbohoje · Outlaw Joined: 14 Aug 2008 Posts: 117 City: thornton

Yeah I pretty much need to sack up. I don't have footae but I can easilly nake roratuon now wo the rope

alpalwal · Newbie Joined: 10 Sep 2003 Posts: 26

You need to throw the roll over your back shoulder instead of straight back.

.... and keep the rope.

turbohoje · Outlaw Joined: 14 Aug 2008 Posts: 117 City: thornton