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ky1e Wakeboarder.com Freak


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Posted: Jan 08, 2009 11:28 am Post subject: "In Style" tricks that should be "Out of Styl |
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I know there was a post similar to this but hey, its a message board, so let's start a new subject. What tricks are out there right now that you can't stand to see or just think is strait up U-G-L-Y.
For me, it is the super poked out tail grab that everyone is doing. Ughhhh I think it is probably the ugliest trick ever. I also hate the stalefish grab where they are really poking the board forward, even worse than the tail.
Those are my two, what are yours?!?
On and the Ricky G indy pete.
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STANG KILLA SS Wakeboarder.Commie


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Posted: Jan 08, 2009 11:32 am Post subject: |
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for those of us that cant do either, they are awesome. not everybodies throwin 5s and 7s
for me any time on the water is good. no matter what your throwing or what others think of it. its a good day in my mind.
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ky1e Wakeboarder.com Freak


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Posted: Jan 08, 2009 11:37 am Post subject: |
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STANG KILLA SS, i'm talking about tricks the pros are into throwing right now that we think are ugly.
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Dpierce37 Ladies Man


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Posted: Jan 08, 2009 11:38 am Post subject: |
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STANG KILLA SS, agreed! I am lucky enough just to been down and touch the board! HAHAHA Damn beer gut!
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Craig-R Wakeboarder.Commie


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Posted: Jan 08, 2009 11:44 am Post subject: |
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| ilubronix, i agree on the tail grab, it's pretty awkward looking. i think most tricks look good, but it bothers me when someone doesn't have any style. There have been a few vids posted on here that the person could RIP but it was all U-G-L-Y
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Posted: Jan 08, 2009 11:51 am Post subject: |
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STANG KILLA SS, I definitely agree!! I do like seein' Benny G poke out some of his tricks though...he's got sick style. Definitely one of my favorite riders.
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Zachcopp Newbie

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Posted: Jan 08, 2009 12:09 pm Post subject: |
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I think pokin out grabs gives a rider so much style. The way Benny G can grab and poke a 5 or 7 is absolutely sick. Or Harris just launching off a double up and holding a poking a grab for what seems like forever! Im not 100% sure what its called, but its a heel front flip with a frontside 180. Front to revert? But most pros that do them are ugly. Lyman and Byerly are the only guys that I have seen make the trick look good. Ha I wish I could atleast do one that looked ugly though...
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Posted: Jan 08, 2009 12:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Switch Toeside 1260, soooo played out..
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Craig-R Wakeboarder.Commie


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Posted: Jan 08, 2009 12:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Zachcopp wrote: | | not 100% sure what its called, but its a heel front flip with a frontside 180. Front to revert?. |
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Wakebrad Ladies Man


Joined: 11 Dec 2003 Posts: 12257 City: Dallas
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Posted: Jan 08, 2009 12:40 pm Post subject: |
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I think you're right with the poked tail and stalefish. I do both but just to vary it up. My favorite is still a poked nose like in my profile picture...errr just noticed my profile picture is gone... crap.
I do like the stalefish with a 180 or tailgrab on an OA rotation.
I've never been a fan of the R2R. Landing and rotation has always looked ugly to me.
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Posted: Jan 08, 2009 12:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Dpierce37 wrote: | STANG KILLA SS, agreed! I am lucky enough just to been down and touch the board! HAHAHA Damn beer gut!  |
haha 3 finger board slaps count right?!
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Posted: Jan 08, 2009 1:33 pm Post subject: |
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im with you ilubronix, but i do like a poked stale to BS180. Im not a fan of most people's methods as well. Rhett Whatley has one of the only good ones I've ever seen.
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ky1e Wakeboarder.com Freak


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Posted: Jan 08, 2009 1:57 pm Post subject: |
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Wakebrad and LakeIolaLuke, it isn't the standard poked tail grab i'm talking about. I think a normal poked tail is sick. It is when they grab it then basically have a seizure on the board and literally try and hit themselves in the back of the head with the board. I also love a nice stalefish grab, but I hate when they do it and basically get their body positioned like they are laying down.
LakeIolaLuke, Rhett's method is sick because of me. I take personal credit for all of Rhett's riding actually. Where did he learn his first h/s off 3- my boat, where did he learn his first big worm- my boat, where did he learn his first damn near every trick- my boat. Rhett is a pro because of me. Justtttttt kidding, Rhett is a pro because he has more talent in his pinky then 10 of us combined have in our bodies, but I did teach that little twirp a lot
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Posted: Jan 08, 2009 2:20 pm Post subject: |
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ya i just hate a double up raley with a real clean grab, thats the wrost
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Posted: Jan 08, 2009 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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Zachcopp, i can do that trick and you're right..it's ugly as Bubb Rubb.
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ky1e Wakeboarder.com Freak


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Posted: Jan 09, 2009 6:09 am Post subject: |
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| Zachcopp wrote: | | I think pokin out grabs gives a rider so much style. The way Benny G can grab and poke a 5 or 7 is absolutely sick. Or Harris just launching off a double up and holding a poking a grab for what seems like forever! Im not 100% sure what its called, but its a heel front flip with a frontside 180. Front to revert? But most pros that do them are ugly. Lyman and Byerly are the only guys that I have seen make the trick look good. Ha I wish I could atleast do one that looked ugly though... |
Parks front to fakie is one of the sickest tricks done on a wakeboard.
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Posted: Jan 09, 2009 10:10 am Post subject: |
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ilubronix, I know EXACTLY what you're talking about. There's a video off thewakeplace.com where the guy puts his entire hand on the bottom of the board, and does a bicep curl to pull the board up to his armpit. Looks absolutely foolish. I'll try to throw that vid up in a few hours... first I've gotta go take a set RIGHT NOW (YES! )
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leviwynnyk Soul Rider


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Posted: Jan 09, 2009 1:53 pm Post subject: |
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Personally, I get a bit tired of seeing wake to wake non grabbed fast spins. Once you've seen a few hundred they kind of start to all look the same. Don't get me wrong a 7 or even 9 wake to wake is an amazing trick I'll never do, but they just get a bit boring to watch when there are no grabs or anything.
As for tail grabs, I think Adam Erringtons Tail Glides and Tail glides to frontside 180 are super sick.
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holdsworth PityDaFool Who Posts This Much

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Posted: Jan 09, 2009 2:17 pm Post subject: |
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| TS BS spins. Yes, I do know they are extremely difficult tricks but they are always hucked. I think it's Harf that does a TS BS 5 that looks incredible, but some of the rest get really sloppy with it and butcher it.
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Posted: Jan 09, 2009 2:41 pm Post subject: |
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i think anything over a 7 is too much, only exception is randall's wrapped heelside fs 9 in drive. stylish spins with some sick grabs are my favorite. like stalefish fs 3s, big poked indy ts 3s. tail grab backside spins too.
TS backspins are sick, ONLy when they are grapped, wrapped, and on axis.
least favorite tricks are raley based tricks. Some glides are ok, like chads or maybe some of rustys. but anything like 313, vulcans, s bends i dont like at all.
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Posted: Jan 09, 2009 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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| i agree.....anything over a 7 just looks hucked & sloppy. i give it credit, 9s,10s, & 12s are an amazing accomplishment. they just look like super hucked bs.
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Posted: Jan 10, 2009 6:39 am Post subject: |
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| Se7en wrote: | | Switch Toeside 1260, soooo played out.. |
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ky1e Wakeboarder.com Freak


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Posted: Jan 10, 2009 9:10 am Post subject: |
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holdsworth, Harf's toeside bs 3's and 5s are my favorite tricks out there right now. How he throws that tail grab in just makes the trick seem so fluid and stylish like it really takes him no effort. I have tried the ts bs oa 3 and i will say, IT TAKES A LOT OF EFFORT unless you are shaggyboarder and stick the trick your first try then get the handle on the back 5 second try but he isnt human
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Posted: Jan 10, 2009 9:42 am Post subject: |
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I actually like the boned out tail grab.
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ky1e Wakeboarder.com Freak


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Posted: Jan 10, 2009 10:09 am Post subject: |
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intotheflats, take it back...NOW!!
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Posted: Jan 10, 2009 4:38 pm Post subject: |
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| i would like to see any of you tail and stalefish bashers try to do one of those tweaked out that much. i gaurantee you cant and thats why your hating.
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savage3221 Wakeboarder.com Freak


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westsidarider, hey, I give total respect to how hard some of them are. But when you are the best, you should also look the best. Now I also know that this is a personal preference thing on what kind of styles you like. I LOVE boned out tail and stalefish grabs, but not like that. There IS such a thing as too much of a good thing. When the movement is super jerky, and lacks any fluidity, I personally think that the trick looks "hucked" or, in less wake terms: sh*tty. That doesn't change the fact that it is a hard thing to do, but it would also be really hard for me to shove my head in my arse wake to wake. But I don't that would get the steeze award either. Benny G's pokes are what I strive to be, insanely poked, but look great in video OR picture OR real life. That's what I believe is true style, not some penis competition of who can stick their board farther in some direction.
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Posted: Jan 10, 2009 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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intotheflats, haha Im with you. I love those 2 grabs. My two favorites to do actually. I love TS BS spins too (except 180s, not cool to me even if you grab it, unless its shifty like Randall in Drive)
I dont like those stupid "glides." Aka whenever a PRO rider does a grab now, its automatically a "glide." No. These little half-@$$ nuclear grabs and stalefish grabs where the board is 1.3 degrees from parallel to the water does not make it a glide, and it looks half-@$$ed even if its not supposed to be a glide. I also hate nuclear tantrum to blinds and most nuke ts r2bs. Rusty's in the opener of Bent Felix is sick (one handed take off). I just dont like nuclear grabs. Lastly, I think nose grabs look absolutely terrible if not accompanied with a trick. Even with a FS 180, it looks great. Nose FS 3s and nose HS Mobes are SICK but doing a w2w nosegrab even poked, tweaked, etc looks dumb to me.
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Posted: Jan 10, 2009 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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TS BS OA3's are sick as hell, but everyone is doing them these days. On a related note, Danny Harf is the man.
It's not a stylish trick, but while I'm ranting, TS Roll to Revert's should be outlawed.
Oh yeah, and i like those tail grabs, especially when boosted into the flats and taken to blind at the last second. And Chris O'Shea's super poked out tail KGB off the double up is possibly one of the sickest things I've ever seen on a wakeboard.
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Posted: Jan 10, 2009 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Josh R, oh yea forgot about that one. TS r2rs no matter how theyre done are FUGLY
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Posted: Jan 10, 2009 11:37 pm Post subject: |
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Wot the wot? Tail poke is pretty much the only thing I can do. Back to drawing board i guess.

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ky1e Wakeboarder.com Freak


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Posted: Jan 11, 2009 7:07 am Post subject: |
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Josh R, when danny does that grabbed toeside r2r it looks nasty, when he grabs a little past indy like nose/indy. Looks like a completely different trick.
Ralph, that tail grab is perfect. Keep doing it like that. It is when the guy tries to lay on his tail as a back rest that we are referring to.
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Posted: Jan 12, 2009 12:41 pm Post subject: |
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Anything wrapped.. I dont care how long you can grab the board.
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Posted: Jan 16, 2009 2:28 pm Post subject: |
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STANG KILLA SS, dude I'm with you. If I could throw a switch 7 then maybe a poked tail grab would be lame. But after riding for just 6 months, I get stoked on a clean tail grab or stalefish - makes my session.
So when I see a pro throw them with style, it gets me inspired. I saw Lyman throw a huge tweaked stalefish this fall and it was still sweet.
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