Scarecrow

--cresko-- · Soul Rider Joined: 03 Dec 2006 Posts: 496

I want to go for crows soon enough, so I can have them consistent by August or so. I have a consistent ts w2w, and ts fs 180. I can do crows on the tramp really well. This trick seems like more of a problem for me because of a mental block. It seems like everyone I have talked to have fallen pretty hard when learning this trick and smashed their face on one of their knees. Busted teeth out, broken jaws, smashed eye sockets ect ect. So I was going to give one a shot today, but its before I cut in I have this stupid vivid mental image of smashing my face on my knee. So whats the best way to approach this trick? Slow the boat down and throw it? Thats how i learned tantrums. So I;m thinking it might work again, not sure.

Jensen · Posted: Jul 01, 2008 8:18 pm Post subject:

--cresko--, im in the same boat, the knee face thing scares me, but my buddy just tried about 30 in the last week and finally landed one with no injuries. i'm just going to go for it and try really hard not to under rotate.

aussie_stu · Posted: Jul 01, 2008 10:15 pm Post subject:

no injuries here either, crows were my first invert, did hit my jewels on the 2nd wake once or twice though Embarassed

flounderbout · Outlaw Joined: 30 Sep 2006 Posts: 224 City: London

I nailed myself a bunch of times learning tants and BRs, but for crows I went for about 3 gos at TSFRs, and kept sliding out and landing on my butt (which doesn't hurt at all), then tried a crow instead and got the second one I tried. If you can do them on the tramp and your TS W2W is consistent, I suspect you will find them really easy. I get them more consistently than HS inverts now - but I have flamed my fair share, and I have never taken a hard fall on them.
Don't believe the hype!

alfromscotland · Soul Rider Joined: 06 May 2008 Posts: 259 City: aberdeen

Try chucking them on a skate first to get used to the rotation, this way you can dive in and not hurt yourself. Its a technique i saw someone use on a cable to get used to raleys and it really helps build confidence. I know exactly what is going through your head when you approach the wake, ima do it, ima do it, ima, HOLLLY KNEEE FACE followed by a ts w2w and a frustrated face when you land.

Just chuck yourself off a skate and you will think that you have been being a puss and go for it!

Its all about confidence.

Riddick · Outlaw Joined: 14 Feb 2008 Posts: 212 City: Knoxville

You just have to do it...instead of thinkin about crashing and hurting yourself...think about the steps of the trick...cut in, ****ride all the way up the wake and feel the pop****. then throw the flip. see the landing. ride away.

NorthwestRider · Posted: Jul 02, 2008 7:12 pm Post subject:

Try them a couple times but lean back a bit so you land with you weight back so then you'll smash your nuts instead of your face.

bobmurph · Outlaw Joined: 18 Apr 2006 Posts: 151 City: Atlanta

I've heard about the knee to face impact when learning TS FR's...is it as much of a threat when learning the Scarecrow too? My TS w2w & tsfs 180's are locked in. Ready to try to some TS inverts, but I want to keep my grill intact.

--cresko-- · Soul Rider Joined: 03 Dec 2006 Posts: 496

im thinking of wearing a mouth guard. I love the look of a nose grab scarecrow, and I really want to learn them.

Capix · Outlaw Joined: 10 May 2008 Posts: 194 City: Ft. Lauderdale

Sorry to bring this thread back to life, but I just thought that it's better than openning a new thread.

I am in the sae situation, I decided to learn the 360's instead of the scarecrow, jut becuase I scared of smashing my face. in addition to that I am doing it of a kicker so I am not sure if the damage can be even worse.

I have witnesses a couple pf accident with broken noses ect, and that is really what's keeping me from doing it.

I wondering if a backroll is harder than the scarecrow? maybe I could start there.

P.S. the scarecrow is a fs, just because the kicker that I am the most used to, the hs kicker is a bit more treaky, plus the walk back is a pain in the ass.

kent2010 · Soul Rider Joined: 14 Jun 2008 Posts: 281 City: Needles

A backroll is definetly easier than a crow.

Capix · Outlaw Joined: 10 May 2008 Posts: 194 City: Ft. Lauderdale

that's what I was thinking. Not sure why everybody at the park says the other way. I might give it a try on thursday.

wake_quake · Posted: Aug 03, 2008 3:40 pm Post subject:

i found that FS backrolls are easiest to learn off a kicker. its a very natural, easy rotation. just dont chuck it to early and you will be fine!

i also found that fs backrolls were easiest to build on. you can spot the water sooo early!

J_DOGG · Posted: Aug 04, 2008 6:52 am Post subject:

I have not given trick advice in a long time so bare with me here.

IMO - One is not easier than the other it's really a matter of your skill set and what YOU are better at that will make one trick easier for you than the other.

Some people suck but can bust 4 HS inverts and have HS hero syndrome, meaning they wont even try TS tricks...
Other people are good riders but can't do a simple TS w2w but do TS 3s all day long, I ride with a guy like this.

The knee to the face stuff only happens when you huck and luck or close your eyes and or don't spot the landing but this is true for most all inverts.
I have seen kids eat lip on HS back rolls just as much as crazy crow attempts.

IMO - The trick to learning news tricks is working with your tendencies and strong points and picking tricks that fall in line with that..
for instance - I can't do switch HS 180's but I can do TS 3's and regular HS 180's all day long.

LFADAM · Posted: Aug 07, 2008 11:03 am Post subject:

Wow I never knew people were scared of scarecrow falls. I think theyre really mild comparatively. Just trip your first ones slightly harder than a TS frontroll so you will come around and land on your butt if anything, but youll probably just land really seated riding away.

WakeTrixx · Newbie Joined: 06 Nov 2008 Posts: 19

Lol i am in the same boat, i have landed a mexican backroll, and am scared to do a tantrum do to a childhood tramp acsident, so i said fu*k it and i am gunna try a scarecrow before i try a tantrum, i plan on doing it this comming weekend, wish me luck.