| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
craig3x Newbie

Joined: 11 Sep 2010 Posts: 12 City: Folsom
|
Posted: Sep 12, 2010 6:38 pm Post subject: diferent wakeboards? what they mean? |
|
|
I've been wakeboarding for about 5 years, but have always ridden whatever equipment is available to me at the time. I consider myself novice, but have landed a handful of frontflips, and one 360. (cant ride goofy for crap though). Anyway, I want to finally buy a good wakeboard for my skill level.
Now for the questions;
what makes a board better than others? what is the benefit of using the middle skags/ fins? |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
|
|
craig3x Newbie

Joined: 11 Sep 2010 Posts: 12 City: Folsom
|
Posted: Sep 12, 2010 6:40 pm Post subject: |
|
|
forgot to ask, how important are bindings in the equation?
Last edited by craig3x on Sep 12, 2010 7:21 pm; edited 1 time in total |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
dbismyname Wakeboarder.Commie

Joined: 14 Sep 2008 Posts: 1073 City: Clarksville
|
Posted: Sep 12, 2010 6:54 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Search button is up top, search board help and you'll have days of info. Once you do that you'll have a lot more specific questions. Welcome to the board |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
DRAGON88 Ladies Man


Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 8213 City: Portland, OR
|
Posted: Sep 12, 2010 7:10 pm Post subject: Re: diferent wakeboards? what they mean? |
|
|
| craig3x wrote: | I've been wakeboarding for about 5 years, but have always ridden whatever equipment is available to me at the time. I consider myself novice, but have landed a handful of frontflips, and one 360. (cant ride goofy for crap though). Anyway, I want to finally buy a good wakeboard for my skill level.
Now for the questions;
what makes a board better than others? what is the benefit of using the middle skags/ fins? |
Construction aside, nothing. Demo as many boards as you can and go from there. Nobody from the information above is going to be able to give you a decent recommendation on a new deck.
Benefits to middle fins, they make the board more stable. But you will learn how to edge quicker if you take them off. _________________ wakeboards
wakeboarding |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Craig-R Wakeboarder.Commie


Joined: 19 Dec 2008 Posts: 1676
|
Posted: Sep 12, 2010 7:14 pm Post subject: |
|
|
you waited two minutes for a response?
some boards have no center fins but one fin on each side.. and some have a center fin AND a fin on each side.. just depends on the board but like dragon said, you get more stability from a center fin but you can learn proper edging without the center fin |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
craig3x Newbie

Joined: 11 Sep 2010 Posts: 12 City: Folsom
|
Posted: Sep 12, 2010 7:24 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| dbismyname wrote: | | Search button is up top, search board help and you'll have days of info. Once you do that you'll have a lot more specific questions. Welcome to the board |
thanks for the welcome. tried the search and got a fatal error due to the volume...I guess |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
craig3x Newbie

Joined: 11 Sep 2010 Posts: 12 City: Folsom
|
Posted: Sep 12, 2010 8:35 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| does edging refer to cutting into the wake for a jump? |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
da Liks Addict

Joined: 22 Aug 2010 Posts: 594
|
Posted: Sep 12, 2010 10:35 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| yes it does. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
hawkster0001 Soul Rider


Joined: 21 Jul 2010 Posts: 441 City: GR
|
Posted: Sep 13, 2010 3:12 am Post subject: |
|
|
| do you know of any boards that you have ridden? next time you go out and figure out what board you like, and what do you normally ride boat cable winchh? |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
JeffreyCH Wakeboarder.Commie


Joined: 11 Aug 2008 Posts: 2205 City: Lincoln
|
Posted: Sep 13, 2010 6:06 am Post subject: |
|
|
| craig3x wrote: | | forgot to ask, how important are bindings in the equation? |
Very important!! I would ride a cheap deck with high end bindings, before riding a good deck with crappy bindings. Your bindings should be comfortable, but tight enough to lock your feet in well. A bad binding can ruin your day, and my cause severe injury. One of the worst things that can happen is a 1in/1out crash, when one foot comes out the board gets leverage to twist on your knee and ankle. Since everyone's feet are different, the best thing to do is try on as many as you can. _________________
| _bruky wrote: | | 99 problems but wisdom ain't one. |
|
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
da Liks Addict

Joined: 22 Aug 2010 Posts: 594
|
Posted: Sep 13, 2010 7:03 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Quote: |
One of the worst things that can happen is a 1in/1out crash, when one foot comes out the board gets leverage to twist on your knee and ankle
|
yeah thats really bad news! tighten those laces! |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
SexyWS6Mama Outlaw


Joined: 28 Apr 2008 Posts: 150 City: Killeen
|
Posted: Sep 13, 2010 8:52 am Post subject: |
|
|
| craig3x wrote: | | does edging refer to cutting into the wake for a jump? |
I would recommend researching several boards and like others said demo if you can. Having the right bindings are so important. Then with your riding, go back to basics because you need to not just land a few tricks, you need to know how to ride all together from learning about rope tension, edging, handle position, focus and so forth.
good luck |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
craig3x Newbie

Joined: 11 Sep 2010 Posts: 12 City: Folsom
|
Posted: Sep 13, 2010 10:14 am Post subject: |
|
|
| good advice. Thanks! |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
hawkster0001 Soul Rider


Joined: 21 Jul 2010 Posts: 441 City: GR
|
Posted: Sep 13, 2010 6:08 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| IMO just about any ronix board will be great |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
DRAGON88 Ladies Man


Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 8213 City: Portland, OR
|
Posted: Sep 13, 2010 6:12 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| hawkster0001 wrote: | | IMO just about any ronix board will be great |
Seriously?  _________________ wakeboards
wakeboarding |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
hawkster0001 Soul Rider


Joined: 21 Jul 2010 Posts: 441 City: GR
|
Posted: Sep 13, 2010 6:16 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| just my opinion , (all except chads boards, i dont like the covin and viva to much) not sayin other brands dont make good boards to though.. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
DRAGON88 Ladies Man


Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 8213 City: Portland, OR
|
Posted: Sep 13, 2010 6:22 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Ok, it's just not very helpful or accurate advice. _________________ wakeboards
wakeboarding |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
dbismyname Wakeboarder.Commie

Joined: 14 Sep 2008 Posts: 1073 City: Clarksville
|
Posted: Sep 14, 2010 12:03 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| hawkster0001 wrote: | | IMO just about any ronix board will be great |
Just like anything tastes great with ketchup, including dogshnit  |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
hawkster0001 Soul Rider


Joined: 21 Jul 2010 Posts: 441 City: GR
|
Posted: Sep 14, 2010 1:30 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| well, if you want a actual board options type a deal, it would be nice to know for 1 do you ride boat or cable, do you ride behind a i/o or inboard, and how much wheight/ what boat, what kinda tricks are you looking to do, |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
craig3x Newbie

Joined: 11 Sep 2010 Posts: 12 City: Folsom
|
Posted: Sep 14, 2010 3:00 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| hawkster0001 wrote: | | well, if you want a actual board options type a deal, it would be nice to know for 1 do you ride boat or cable, do you ride behind a i/o or inboard, and how much wheight/ what boat, what kinda tricks are you looking to do, |
I ride behind a ski centurion V-drive. I can land a front flip 1 out of about 12 tries, but want to do this trick more consistently, as well as learn some new ones. I am 5-8, 170 lbs and am currently riding an O'brien Oasis 137 that is about 7 years old.
Just wanted to know if I should change up my gear to help get better |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
hawkster0001 Soul Rider


Joined: 21 Jul 2010 Posts: 441 City: GR
|
Posted: Sep 14, 2010 4:48 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| i could only find info on a 07 oasis, but its probably stayed relatively the same, its a pretty mellow three stage, so on the ronix side of boards youd want to go with a one or ibex probably, the reson you would want to get one of these is that since its a little more agressive rocker line, it will give you a bit more height, but your gonna have to cut a bit harder, i dont know about other brands so other people would have to fill you in there, what kinda bindings do you have? becasue your gonna want to get better bindings before you get a better board |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
craig3x Newbie

Joined: 11 Sep 2010 Posts: 12 City: Folsom
|
Posted: Sep 15, 2010 8:42 am Post subject: |
|
|
| can you explain what "stage" means 3 stage? 2 stage?? or point me to a forum that explains it all? Thanks. sorry, Im a noob |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
GnarShredd Wakeboarder.Commie

Joined: 16 Jun 2009 Posts: 2310 City: St Pete.
|
Posted: Sep 15, 2010 9:48 am Post subject: |
|
|
There are two types of rocker lines with wakeboards; Continuous or 3-Stage.
Continuous Rocker boards mean that the rocker of the board is one smooth curve from tip to tail.
3-Stage Rocker boards have a flat spot in the middle, and a curved nose/tail (think of it like how a skateboard looks from the side).
These rocker lines carry different characteristics as far as the ride goes. Continuous rockers generally offer a much faster and aggressive ride but not quite as much upwards pop off of the wake (you'll tend to take things past the other wake and land in the flats if you take a good cut at the wake). 3-Stage boards are a bit slower of a ride, but give you a little more of a boot upwards off of the wake thanks to the flat-spot in the middle (as opposed to the continuous, where you won't get as high but you'll go farther in to the flats).
The best thing is to try a couple of boards of each type and see what you like. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
hawkster0001 Soul Rider


Joined: 21 Jul 2010 Posts: 441 City: GR
|
Posted: Sep 15, 2010 3:12 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| GnarShredd, you left one out, kinda just the hy brid, which is a mix of both a three stage/ continuos |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
DRAGON88 Ladies Man


Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 8213 City: Portland, OR
|
Posted: Sep 15, 2010 4:05 pm Post subject: |
|
|
hawkster0001, not really. If it has a flat spot then it is 3 stage, if not then it is continuous. _________________ wakeboards
wakeboarding |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
hawkster0001 Soul Rider


Joined: 21 Jul 2010 Posts: 441 City: GR
|
Posted: Sep 15, 2010 4:08 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| yeah i gues there just a continuos wit a fancy name, but they are a tad different the continuos |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Craig-R Wakeboarder.Commie


Joined: 19 Dec 2008 Posts: 1676
|
Posted: Sep 15, 2010 4:32 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| hawkster0001, you are like the blind leading the blind |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
GnarShredd Wakeboarder.Commie

Joined: 16 Jun 2009 Posts: 2310 City: St Pete.
|
Posted: Sep 16, 2010 7:43 am Post subject: |
|
|
| hawkster0001, Good point, I missed that one. I was just trying to cover the basics but you do see 'blended 3-stage', 'hybrid' or something similar pretty often, so it's good to make the distinction. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
hawkster0001 Soul Rider


Joined: 21 Jul 2010 Posts: 441 City: GR
|
Posted: Sep 16, 2010 11:26 am Post subject: |
|
|
yah i think they should be there own "type" some people dont though, but my resonign is that with a continuos its noramally a board that has a very smoot contour to it , unlike 3 stage which is basicaly a flat bottom an to tips going up, while a hybrid/blended is basically a very very shalow continuos that has had the tips ben up very abruptly like a 3 stage, but without the actual flat spot, the hybrid boards that ive ridden are a ronix mana, bill, and the hyperlite state (which they call a 3 stage, but it doesn not have the flat spot the ronix one or ibex has.if anyone was wondering about the hybrid/blended boards, there basically what you would assume from there name, the a mix of the two main types, brought toghether to try and have the fast ride of a continuos and the striaght up pop of a three stage.
heres a list of ronix hybrid
ronix: mana(08-09), vault/krush, faith hope love, arcade (09), frontier(07?) coy(07?), |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
GnarShredd Wakeboarder.Commie

Joined: 16 Jun 2009 Posts: 2310 City: St Pete.
|
Posted: Sep 16, 2010 1:14 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| hawkster0001, I don't mean it to be it's own 'type', just a term that people should recognize because board manufacturers use it often in product descriptions. A "hybrid" to me is just a 3-stage, it doesn't have to be perfectly flat in the middle, just have three distinct sections in the rocker line. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
AaronATX Outlaw

Joined: 17 Jun 2010 Posts: 136 City: Austin
|
Posted: Sep 16, 2010 1:31 pm Post subject: |
|
|
yeah, subtle or aggressive, a 3 stage is a 3 stage. _________________ click to see my most recent photo set
if anyone has any CT bindings in a 13/14 that they are getting rid of, i'll buy them |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
hawkster0001 Soul Rider


Joined: 21 Jul 2010 Posts: 441 City: GR
|
Posted: Sep 16, 2010 2:52 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| GnarShredd, hmm, make sense, but then again i was just saying what was my opinion |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
LakeIolaLuke Wakeboarder.com Freak


Joined: 10 Jul 2006 Posts: 3064 City: Lake Iola/Orlando
|
Posted: Sep 17, 2010 6:53 pm Post subject: |
|
|
There definitely are hybrid rockers out there, a board doesn't have to fall under the umbrellas of continuous or three stage. The Witness and 2011 Ronix district are great examples. They both have a continuous profile at the rails, with a three stage rockerline through the belly of the board. This gives a smoother, cleaner release on harder cuts where the board stays on edge all the way through the wake, but if you slow your cut down and spring more off the wake, you'll get a more abrupt kick leaving the wake. _________________
| buckthis wrote: | | And another reason wakeboarding is better than surfing, you die less, that means you have another day to wakeboard, which is more fun than surfing anyway. |
|
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
GnarShredd Wakeboarder.Commie

Joined: 16 Jun 2009 Posts: 2310 City: St Pete.
|
Posted: Sep 18, 2010 5:13 am Post subject: |
|
|
 |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
|
|
|