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PostPosted: Sep 12, 2010 6:38 pm    Post subject: diferent wakeboards? what they mean? Reply with quote

I've been wakeboarding for about 5 years, but have always ridden whatever equipment is available to me at the time. I consider myself novice, but have landed a handful of frontflips, and one 360. (cant ride goofy for crap though). Anyway, I want to finally buy a good wakeboard for my skill level.
Now for the questions;
what makes a board better than others? what is the benefit of using the middle skags/ fins?
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PostPosted: Sep 12, 2010 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

forgot to ask, how important are bindings in the equation?

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PostPosted: Sep 12, 2010 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Search button is up top, search board help and you'll have days of info. Once you do that you'll have a lot more specific questions. Welcome to the board
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PostPosted: Sep 12, 2010 7:10 pm    Post subject: Re: diferent wakeboards? what they mean? Reply with quote

craig3x wrote:
I've been wakeboarding for about 5 years, but have always ridden whatever equipment is available to me at the time. I consider myself novice, but have landed a handful of frontflips, and one 360. (cant ride goofy for crap though). Anyway, I want to finally buy a good wakeboard for my skill level.
Now for the questions;
what makes a board better than others? what is the benefit of using the middle skags/ fins?


Construction aside, nothing. Demo as many boards as you can and go from there. Nobody from the information above is going to be able to give you a decent recommendation on a new deck.

Benefits to middle fins, they make the board more stable. But you will learn how to edge quicker if you take them off.

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PostPosted: Sep 12, 2010 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you waited two minutes for a response?

some boards have no center fins but one fin on each side.. and some have a center fin AND a fin on each side.. just depends on the board but like dragon said, you get more stability from a center fin but you can learn proper edging without the center fin
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PostPosted: Sep 12, 2010 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dbismyname wrote:
Search button is up top, search board help and you'll have days of info. Once you do that you'll have a lot more specific questions. Welcome to the board


thanks for the welcome. tried the search and got a fatal error due to the volume...I guess
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PostPosted: Sep 12, 2010 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

does edging refer to cutting into the wake for a jump?
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PostPosted: Sep 12, 2010 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes it does.
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PostPosted: Sep 13, 2010 3:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

do you know of any boards that you have ridden? next time you go out and figure out what board you like, and what do you normally ride boat cable winchh?
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PostPosted: Sep 13, 2010 6:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

craig3x wrote:
forgot to ask, how important are bindings in the equation?


Very important!! I would ride a cheap deck with high end bindings, before riding a good deck with crappy bindings. Your bindings should be comfortable, but tight enough to lock your feet in well. A bad binding can ruin your day, and my cause severe injury. One of the worst things that can happen is a 1in/1out crash, when one foot comes out the board gets leverage to twist on your knee and ankle. Since everyone's feet are different, the best thing to do is try on as many as you can.

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PostPosted: Sep 13, 2010 7:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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One of the worst things that can happen is a 1in/1out crash, when one foot comes out the board gets leverage to twist on your knee and ankle

yeah thats really bad news! tighten those laces!
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PostPosted: Sep 13, 2010 8:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

craig3x wrote:
does edging refer to cutting into the wake for a jump?


I would recommend researching several boards and like others said demo if you can. Having the right bindings are so important. Then with your riding, go back to basics because you need to not just land a few tricks, you need to know how to ride all together from learning about rope tension, edging, handle position, focus and so forth.

good luck
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PostPosted: Sep 13, 2010 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

good advice. Thanks!
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PostPosted: Sep 13, 2010 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

IMO just about any ronix board will be great
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PostPosted: Sep 13, 2010 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hawkster0001 wrote:
IMO just about any ronix board will be great


Seriously? Laughing

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PostPosted: Sep 13, 2010 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

just my opinion , (all except chads boards, i dont like the covin and viva to much) not sayin other brands dont make good boards to though..
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PostPosted: Sep 13, 2010 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, it's just not very helpful or accurate advice.
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PostPosted: Sep 14, 2010 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hawkster0001 wrote:
IMO just about any ronix board will be great


Just like anything tastes great with ketchup, including dogshnit Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sep 14, 2010 1:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well, if you want a actual board options type a deal, it would be nice to know for 1 do you ride boat or cable, do you ride behind a i/o or inboard, and how much wheight/ what boat, what kinda tricks are you looking to do,
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PostPosted: Sep 14, 2010 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hawkster0001 wrote:
well, if you want a actual board options type a deal, it would be nice to know for 1 do you ride boat or cable, do you ride behind a i/o or inboard, and how much wheight/ what boat, what kinda tricks are you looking to do,


I ride behind a ski centurion V-drive. I can land a front flip 1 out of about 12 tries, but want to do this trick more consistently, as well as learn some new ones. I am 5-8, 170 lbs and am currently riding an O'brien Oasis 137 that is about 7 years old.
Just wanted to know if I should change up my gear to help get better
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PostPosted: Sep 14, 2010 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i could only find info on a 07 oasis, but its probably stayed relatively the same, its a pretty mellow three stage, so on the ronix side of boards youd want to go with a one or ibex probably, the reson you would want to get one of these is that since its a little more agressive rocker line, it will give you a bit more height, but your gonna have to cut a bit harder, i dont know about other brands so other people would have to fill you in there, what kinda bindings do you have? becasue your gonna want to get better bindings before you get a better board
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PostPosted: Sep 15, 2010 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

can you explain what "stage" means 3 stage? 2 stage?? or point me to a forum that explains it all? Thanks. sorry, Im a noob
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PostPosted: Sep 15, 2010 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are two types of rocker lines with wakeboards; Continuous or 3-Stage.

Continuous Rocker boards mean that the rocker of the board is one smooth curve from tip to tail.

3-Stage Rocker boards have a flat spot in the middle, and a curved nose/tail (think of it like how a skateboard looks from the side).


These rocker lines carry different characteristics as far as the ride goes. Continuous rockers generally offer a much faster and aggressive ride but not quite as much upwards pop off of the wake (you'll tend to take things past the other wake and land in the flats if you take a good cut at the wake). 3-Stage boards are a bit slower of a ride, but give you a little more of a boot upwards off of the wake thanks to the flat-spot in the middle (as opposed to the continuous, where you won't get as high but you'll go farther in to the flats).

The best thing is to try a couple of boards of each type and see what you like.
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PostPosted: Sep 15, 2010 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GnarShredd, you left one out, kinda just the hy brid, which is a mix of both a three stage/ continuos
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PostPosted: Sep 15, 2010 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hawkster0001, not really. If it has a flat spot then it is 3 stage, if not then it is continuous.
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PostPosted: Sep 15, 2010 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah i gues there just a continuos wit a fancy name, but they are a tad different the continuos
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PostPosted: Sep 15, 2010 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hawkster0001, you are like the blind leading the blind
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PostPosted: Sep 16, 2010 7:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hawkster0001, Good point, I missed that one. I was just trying to cover the basics but you do see 'blended 3-stage', 'hybrid' or something similar pretty often, so it's good to make the distinction.
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PostPosted: Sep 16, 2010 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yah i think they should be there own "type" some people dont though, but my resonign is that with a continuos its noramally a board that has a very smoot contour to it , unlike 3 stage which is basicaly a flat bottom an to tips going up, while a hybrid/blended is basically a very very shalow continuos that has had the tips ben up very abruptly like a 3 stage, but without the actual flat spot, the hybrid boards that ive ridden are a ronix mana, bill, and the hyperlite state (which they call a 3 stage, but it doesn not have the flat spot the ronix one or ibex has.if anyone was wondering about the hybrid/blended boards, there basically what you would assume from there name, the a mix of the two main types, brought toghether to try and have the fast ride of a continuos and the striaght up pop of a three stage.

heres a list of ronix hybrid
ronix: mana(08-09), vault/krush, faith hope love, arcade (09), frontier(07?) coy(07?),
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PostPosted: Sep 16, 2010 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hawkster0001, I don't mean it to be it's own 'type', just a term that people should recognize because board manufacturers use it often in product descriptions. A "hybrid" to me is just a 3-stage, it doesn't have to be perfectly flat in the middle, just have three distinct sections in the rocker line.
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PostPosted: Sep 16, 2010 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah, subtle or aggressive, a 3 stage is a 3 stage.
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PostPosted: Sep 16, 2010 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GnarShredd, hmm, make sense, but then again i was just saying what was my opinion
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PostPosted: Sep 17, 2010 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There definitely are hybrid rockers out there, a board doesn't have to fall under the umbrellas of continuous or three stage. The Witness and 2011 Ronix district are great examples. They both have a continuous profile at the rails, with a three stage rockerline through the belly of the board. This gives a smoother, cleaner release on harder cuts where the board stays on edge all the way through the wake, but if you slow your cut down and spring more off the wake, you'll get a more abrupt kick leaving the wake.
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