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PostPosted: Jul 04, 2008 2:50 pm    Post subject: Did I get ripped off on my new rope? Reply with quote

I had a recent thread on here discussing stretch / non stretch ropes. The sum of which came down to "get a dyneema or spectra line" running with this idea I got the cheapest dyneema or spectra line I could find which was the following:

http://www.fogdog.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2657704

In this description it says "the handle is strung with dyneema" and "polyethylene outer braided jacket" and continues on to describe how long the line is. I thought this meant a dyneema core with a plastic outside. I assumed that a dyneema or spectra core line would mean that when you spread the line, you could see a thicker line in the middle that is the spectra or dyneema. Anyways when i push the line together I don't see any thicker line in the middle. Also on the package that came with the rope it says nothing about dyneema on it.

Arent spectra or dyneema lines supposed to have a separate thicker core in the middle of the plastic weave? Pictures below:

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PostPosted: Jul 04, 2008 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Jul 04, 2008 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

of course option 2 is that I'm an idiot and didnt know what i was really buying Wink
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PostPosted: Jul 04, 2008 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't say you got ripped off. I'd say you got exactly what you paid for, which is an inexpensive "low stretch" rope.

What you really need for wakeboarding is a NO stretch line.

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PostPosted: Jul 04, 2008 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wakeboarder3780,
I bought that same setup from dicks last summer, but i was buying it purely for the handle. That is a low stretch rope. I don't think you got ripped off, i think you didn't know what your buying. If i were you, i'd buy a no stretch line now. It helps out ALOT

Here's one for 68. I own this one in red and it's a good line
http://www.boardstop.com/product_info.php?cPath=67_55_77&products_id=1363

Here's one for 66
http://www.boardstop.com/product_info.php?cPath=67_55_145&products_id=1892

This should get you started
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PostPosted: Jul 04, 2008 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It doesn't say the mainline is dyneema in the description, so I wouldn't say you got ripped off. It says the handle is strung with dyneema, but the mainline is Poly-E.

Dyneema and Spectra won't be much thicker than a shoe lace.
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PostPosted: Jul 07, 2008 7:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

you can simply look at a rope and tell if it is no-stretch or not. IMO, if you had really researched and looked at what you looking into, you would have gotten what you wanted.
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PostPosted: Jul 07, 2008 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah this one was definitely my bad, I got the mainline Chad H mentioned and plan on using the handle from this cheaper rope as it stated it was strung with dyneema. Then I should have a fully dyneema strung line.

BTW I would like to mention that NO ropes are "no stretch" every rope stretches even if only a little. Spectra stretches .05% for instance. This means if you ran a 70 foot spectra mainline, the line will stretch up to 4.2 inches.

I have yet to find a source stating the amount of stretch dyneema has but look occasionally. The dyneema site is fairly extensive and it may be buried there somewhere. In any case.. EVERY line stretches, its just a matter of how much stretch we are willing to accept.

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PostPosted: Jul 07, 2008 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wakeboarder3780 wrote:

BTW I would like to mention that NO ropes are "no stretch" every rope stretches even if only a little. Spectra stretches .05% for instance. This means if you ran a 70 foot spectra mainline, the line will stretch up to 4.2 inches.


how much load is required to stretch that .05%? what braid? what wakeboard ropes use that braid?
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PostPosted: Jul 08, 2008 7:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wakeboarder3780,
I had that exact set up all last season it worked out well for me. I think the handle i was using was actually strung with Poly E, so it was low stretch, but 5 feet of low stretch isn't going to stretch more than an inch or so.

As for your argument about every rope stretching, 4.2 inches, really isn't going to affect us much, and that's if we can manage to put enough load on the line to stretch it that much.
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PostPosted: Jul 08, 2008 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wb3780 wrote:
Spectra stretches .05% for instance. This means if you ran a 70 foot spectra mainline, the line will stretch up to 4.2 inches.


umm, no, go to class. .05% of 70 feet is .42 inches, roughly half an inch.

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PostPosted: Jul 08, 2008 9:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

finkle wrote:
wb3780 wrote:
Spectra stretches .05% for instance. This means if you ran a 70 foot spectra mainline, the line will stretch up to 4.2 inches.


umm, no, go to class. .05% of 70 feet is .42 inches, roughly half an inch.


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PostPosted: Jul 08, 2008 9:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

you'll be fine just go out there and wakeboard. can you even go W2W?
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