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PostPosted: Aug 02, 2007 9:22 am    Post subject: how much weight = wake Reply with quote

A couple other posts have kinda of hit on this but here goes.
I have a 2006 baliner xt 175. Last weekend was the first time I video taped us wakeboarding. Our wake looks like like a ripple to most of the videos Ive seen. I understand that my boat doesn't compare to the wakeboard boats but man I need a bigger wake. I can't afford for the fat sacks and pumps so iwas going to add wieght other ways. How much weight will I need to add to make a difference.
Also about how tall is the average wake? I mean when I looked at mine on tape it looked maybe a foot tall. I would post a video but i r computr dum.
Thanks for any feedback.
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PostPosted: Aug 02, 2007 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

IMHO about 1000 lbs will make a runabout a better wake boat.

I use 2x 440lb Fatsacs and a couple friends and my Tahoe Q7 has a respectable wake.
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PostPosted: Aug 02, 2007 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats kind of what I'm asking. What is a respectable wake. So I add 600-800lbs what am I to expect.
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PostPosted: Aug 03, 2007 3:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In my experiences it all depends on the the boat. Some boats adding 800lbs would make the wake 6" taller while others would only go half that.

If your not getting fat sacs I am not sure how your going to add that much weight to actually see a big improvement, unless your constantly filling your boat with passengers.

For me the average wake height is about 2.5'-3' but then I am spoiled behind my buddies boats.

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PostPosted: Aug 03, 2007 4:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

endlessracingz, It may seem like it when your next to it, but I'd bet 3 foot wake would be damn near unrideable. I mean so t-ups probably get close to three feet from trough to crest, but I can't imagine a 3 foot high boat wake.
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PostPosted: Aug 03, 2007 4:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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endlessracingz, It may seem like it when your next to it, but I'd bet 3 foot wake would be damn near unrideable. I mean so t-ups probably get close to three feet from trough to crest, but I can't imagine a 3 foot high boat wake.


I might be over exaggerating but when I'm out there the top of the wake is just under my knee or so it seems and thats a good 2.5' I dunno maybe I'm wrong Embarassed

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PostPosted: Aug 03, 2007 4:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That would make you around 9'-10' tall, or you're average height but your upper body is only 1' and you're all legs.
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PostPosted: Aug 03, 2007 5:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm 6'4" ... I guess I am over exageratting then...
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PostPosted: Aug 03, 2007 7:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I kick out a decent 18' I/O wake. Took a locker sac and a duffel. About 1000 Lbs plus 4 people. Trimming up makes the wake a little taller, but it gets soft so we usually go with a slightly smaller wake but trim down so its more solid.
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PostPosted: Aug 03, 2007 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The boat I normally ride behind at school is an 18 foot Sea Ray and it advises no more than 5 people or about 800 pounds on the boat at a time but we want to make the wake bigger. Can we have 5 people on the boat and add 4-600 pounds and still be safe in it?
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PostPosted: Aug 03, 2007 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

FLWake wrote:
The boat I normally ride behind at school is an 18 foot Sea Ray and it advises no more than 5 people or about 800 pounds on the boat at a time but we want to make the wake bigger. Can we have 5 people on the boat and add 4-600 pounds and still be safe in it?


Define safe. You have to take due care with all that weight. The boat just wont handle very well. Its far more prone to get swamped going over rollers or stopping short. if youre on top of your driving, youll be fine.

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PostPosted: Aug 03, 2007 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it always varies per boat, i added 100 pounds of lead and 3 more people than usual to my friends 88 malbu sunsetter and the difference was night and day.
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PostPosted: Aug 03, 2007 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm just wondering if you go over the recommended weight on the boat is it still safe enough to go out on. I probably won't be able to add weight though, since its a school boat.
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PostPosted: Aug 04, 2007 8:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sooner dud, be careful because with a 17 foot boat, you probably don't have more than 140hp. And if that is the case, putting 1,000 pounds in that boat would be a very bad idea. It will be nearly impossible to hold a speed and I'd be suprised if the USCG capacity for that boat isn't 1,000 pounds or less anyway. Go with 400-500 pounds and just play around with the placement. 300 in the back and 200 toward the bow sould work best
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PostPosted: Aug 07, 2007 6:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for the info. i'm gonna put about 500lbs in and see what happens. sure hope it helps the wake cause if not my wife will make me sleep in the new wakeboard boat. Wink
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PostPosted: Aug 07, 2007 9:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Aug 07, 2007 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sooner dud wrote:
if not my wife will make me sleep in the new wakeboard boat. Wink


Haha... Honestly, you might want to go for the heater option then. I actually slept in my boat SANTE the first night we got it. Not because I was excited, as we had an XSTAR before, but because we stayed out way to late and the park closed. So, we just played all night. Those were good times.
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PostPosted: Aug 30, 2007 6:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

going out tomorrow.
i have added a hydro foil and a 400 lb fat sac in the back and another 180 lbs up front.
hopefully we will video some of it and then compare it to before and after.
will probably be tuesday sept 4 before i be back on here.
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