My progress on my wakeboard rail/box UPDATED !!ITS DONE!!!!!

snobo4rder08 · Criminal Joined: 08 Jul 2006 Posts: 59

This is me and my friends progress on our wakeboard box/rail

All we have left to do is paint it, fasten the floatation on and put PVC on top

We are going to use 4 barrels for it

it is 30 feet long and 14in wide

what do u guys think??

icanollie121 · Criminal Joined: 23 Jul 2006 Posts: 53

that looks really sweet!

I wish I could put that in my lake!

but I live on a public lake and the cops would move that in a second!

snobo4rder08 · Criminal Joined: 08 Jul 2006 Posts: 59

we called the DNR and they just said we have to make sure it is okay if our neighbors dont have a problem with it...and i know they dont cuzz both of my neighbors wakeboard with me haha

BioliteRy · Outlaw Joined: 26 Nov 2005 Posts: 206 City: O-town

How are you going to keep that from moving? I have a 17fter that we are going to make stands to hold it and/or use poles and put 4 of them to hold it.

kdip · Posted: Apr 19, 2007 9:10 am Post subject:

Looks sweet!

snobo4rder08 · Criminal Joined: 08 Jul 2006 Posts: 59

snobo4rder08 · Criminal Joined: 08 Jul 2006 Posts: 59

were going to put boards all the way down each side incase of falling off...
then were going to paint the wood black
then putting 4 3" PVC pipes on the top of it

Brian B. · Posted: May 04, 2007 3:04 pm Post subject:

snobo4rder08, My advice would be to use treated plywood. Untreated will not last very long.

inter · Addict Joined: 01 Sep 2006 Posts: 539 City: BC

that looks pretty sweet,
and like Brian B. I also think you should use treated plywood

snobo4rder08 · Criminal Joined: 08 Jul 2006 Posts: 59

the wood is treated. Smile

otiswunguy · Addict Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 871 City: Sammamish

You have a really good start and it is overbuilt. I would spend the extra money and get sheets of pvc or composite decking material. That box looks like it"s built right and begs for the slippery surface that it and you need.

nickl011 · Posted: May 05, 2007 7:09 pm Post subject:

Looks nice, I like your omega

Scott0 · Outlaw Joined: 29 Sep 2003 Posts: 160

snooks · Soul Rider Joined: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 313 City: Calgary

What the hell is with all of your gay and random pictures that you keep posting. You are making yourself look like a retard. If you want serious answers to your own posts, firstly show a little maturity... and secondly dont hijack threads using dumb pictures....

I believe i speak on behalf of many people. You my friend are a douche. Colorful

urinal mint · Outlaw Joined: 07 Jun 2005 Posts: 212 City: Texarkana

motion to ban the troll posting pictures.

how about you bend over, touch your toes and try to fart. perhaps you will dislodge your head from your ass.

OP, nice rail!

jlaws · Addict Joined: 16 Sep 2006 Posts: 832 City: NC

That is a pretty sweet rail. looks like fun Smile

and wtf is with the guy posting random pictures... pretty freakin lame Colorful

LakeIolaLuke · Posted: May 06, 2007 8:07 am Post subject:

Whoa dude, widen out the stance on that omega setup. It'll take a set or two to get used to it, but you'll thank me later

nickl011 · Posted: May 06, 2007 9:44 am Post subject:

snobo4rder08 · Criminal Joined: 08 Jul 2006 Posts: 59

More pictures!!

Heres all the supports finally on for the side boards

Heres the progress on the plywooding it

Heres a picture of what PVC were going to use and how wide it will be

How you guys think its coming?

Canucked · Addict Joined: 12 Apr 2005 Posts: 873 City: Edmonton

That thing looks fun

Mitchell · Posted: May 07, 2007 8:15 am Post subject:

you just buy those slacks or shlacks or dunno what there called its just wood made out of plastic and easy to slide on, I just cover that thing with them it would be pretty sweet

h2oman · Newbie Joined: 21 Jan 2007 Posts: 46 City: Dallas

Wow. I like it. Based on your design can you add some elevation to it later if you want more air?

jjaszkow · Posted: May 07, 2007 9:31 am Post subject:

Looks really nice. Have you considered using sheeting rather than the PVC pipes to cover it?

J_DOGG · Posted: May 07, 2007 10:42 am Post subject:

OK, since I have been down the slider road a few times already..

I like your energy and you have something good to work with there but...

You might want to work on lifting it out of the water a bit more with bigger floats or raising the rail off the deck you built.
Once you hit it your weight will set the rail into the water at the ends more so than in the middle and you will most likely catch some edges on the water with how low your slider is. Of course depending on what type of slides you use it for.

Concrete blocks wont hold it in place for similar reasons above.. once you hit the rail one side is going to load and lift... this pulls the blocks up from the bottom and drops them straight back down. By the time you do 3 passes your blocks will be doing nothing but keeping the rail from floating away and wont even keep it lined up any more. You need to set (SET, NOT DROP) an anchor on each end.

Saying your neighbors being OK with it is very vague and subjective - It's all cool your neighbors wakeboard so they are good with it but when you are on a lake EVERYONE on the lake is your neighbor. Will the old guy who reads his Sunday paper on his floating dock across the lake going to be OK with it?

Like I said I have been down the slider road a few times and what works for us and our lake will not be the same for all, I'm just tossing out advice...
I have a 30 foot RAVE slider that I pull in and out each time we use it, setting it with an anchor at each end out in the middle of the lake. Guess what, not everyone is down with it and I had to get approval by the state and guess what some people are still not down with it.

bmartin · Addict Joined: 05 Feb 2003 Posts: 794

Following up on J-Dogg and anchoring. Instead of setting an anchor, another option is to put a shock cord on the anchor line by taking 30 to 36 inches of anchor line and attaching an 24inch rubber bungee type truckers cord to the ends of the 30 inch section. This will create 6 inches of slack in your anchor line, but produce more or less constant tension between your rail and anchor as the lifts go up and down. That way your anchor will not lift and fall when hitting it. You will also have to have a system to handle variations in lake depth if you are going to keep it out there any length of time. You will probably need more anchor weight than you realize if you do not set the anchor.

I put a rail on my lake and eventually someone complained and in it came. I will now give away my rail to anyone willing to pick it up - floats not included. Mine wasn't as big or as nice as yours, but I used the same basic PV set up as yours and you should be golden there.

Looks like a nice rail!

oshensurfer · Posted: May 07, 2007 12:44 pm Post subject:

Seems like the PVC could catch even molded fins and throw you off on spins, too. Other than that and what was already mentioned, it looks like it could be fun. Make sure to video the first few runs..

inter · Addict Joined: 01 Sep 2006 Posts: 539 City: BC

that rail seems to be coming along very well
its quite wide though

and J_DOGG, thats gotta suck having to pull a 30 foot slider in and out of the lake

LakeIolaLuke · Posted: May 07, 2007 10:19 pm Post subject:

Man, I can't believe so many people are bitchy about sliders. I built and set a permanent 45 foot a-frame in my lake, not one complaint. The nieghbors even let us put it halfway on their land, so we could use the ATV to pull.

(sorry so small, cell phone cam pic)

snobo4rder08 · Criminal Joined: 08 Jul 2006 Posts: 59

Wow that is a sick A frame Rail.

you are lucky to have such nice neibors...ppl on our lake are old rich stuckup people Evil or Very Mad

nickl011 · Posted: May 08, 2007 5:40 am Post subject:

On a 50 foot lot like ours, the slider would be bigger then our lot, and people would get really pissy. They get mad for me running the fourwheeler up and down the gravel road behind the houses, how do you think they would react to building a slider and making pass after pass on it? But I'd probably just do like I always do, Say F*** em'.

mjmurphy53711 · Outlaw Joined: 02 Aug 2005 Posts: 242 City: madison

To the guy with the rave slider:

I too have a rave slider and legally it is nothing different than a rave floating trampoline or someone lounging on a tube in the lake.....there is NOTHING to complain about.

I think on the technical side of things it falls into the category of anchoring a boat for the day, as long as it isnt staying there overnight its ok and nobody can say a thing about it. Other boaters are required to stay away from it just as usual......the only loophole is how close you are coming to it.

Hey snoboarder, Im ready to try your rail......but I really would suggest trex or pvc sheeting for that thing.

J_DOGG · Posted: May 09, 2007 3:07 am Post subject:

inter, I don't pull it in and out of the lake... I should have phrased that better.

I have to set it up each time and break it down when I'm done and tie it next to my dock.... It's in the water all season but only out in the lake when we are using it.

mjmurphy53711, correct, that was my argument with the state when the first complaints came in and boaty rolled over and asked us what we were doing. The state is good with it, it's a raft in their eyes but people on my lake still cry like little girls every time I set the thing up for an afternoon session.

Canucked · Addict Joined: 12 Apr 2005 Posts: 873 City: Edmonton

One thing to note, the problem with using concrete blocks for weight underwater is that concrete has air entrained within it. This makes it weigh a lot less (i've heard as much as 1/2).

That the reason that Buoys need so much weight anchoring them so they don't walk away.

Just something to think about

mjmurphy53711 · Outlaw Joined: 02 Aug 2005 Posts: 242 City: madison

Nobody complains when I use mine but the jetskis think it is there to drive circles around.....even when I am approaching it!

Commodore · Ladies Man Joined: 20 Jun 2005 Posts: 11636

I would really suggest Trex decking or some sort of other option other than the PVC. That much PVC would cost about as much to do the top deck. What would also be cool is if you did the sides as well you can come in at angle, ollie onto it, slide off the sides, etc. The choices are limitless. Definitely a sick slider. Anchoring you'll have to figure out. Just make sure like Jdogg said, it's properly floated, otherwise your weight might submarine it.

Lose the PVC, you'll like it better overall. Trust us.