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PostPosted: Apr 22, 2003 7:52 am    Post subject: Wakesurfing Reply with quote

Twisted Evil Just tried my new landlock from Hyperlite this weekend (nice plug, huh?). Didn't come with a video or nothing Mad . It was kool, but I'm not sure if I got it right. We got a clean wave at about 14mph (I have an i/o engine, almost spooky). Now supposedly your supposed to be able to drop the rope, and cruise in the wake, couldn't do it. Tried at slower speed; just sank. and faster, just sank.
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PostPosted: Apr 22, 2003 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NO, you need a wake or you are doing something wrong.....

I don't go a penny over 12 MPH with a real 6'9" surfboard and can ride laps around and around.

I know everyone has a slightly different way of doing it but for us we drive about 11 mph in a slight bank turn with all the weight on one side of the boat, we pop up with the rope then let go, it's that easy. You need to be starting at the right point on the wake also, too far out no good too close not safe or cool.

I have yet to use the new landlock board, but we have one at the shop and I'm sure I'll be the first to test it out. I'll let you know if we have to do anything different as far as the setup goes.

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PostPosted: Apr 22, 2003 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for the tips. Do you want the clean, rampy wake or more of a wash? My rope's pretty short, maybe I'll try it even shorter (I have an I/O though, dont wanna get chopped up). Confused
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PostPosted: Apr 22, 2003 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hyperlite has a video demo for the landlock. go to hyperlites web site and click on downloads and then landlock demo. It should show you how close to be.
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PostPosted: Apr 23, 2003 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your friggen crazy wakesurfing behind an I/0! If you fall forward ah you could lose your HEAD!!

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PostPosted: Apr 23, 2003 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah thats just stupid of you to wakesurf behind an i/o
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PostPosted: Apr 23, 2003 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

YOU MORON!!! YOU COULD HAVE BEEN KILLED
dude, think before you do something that stupid
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PostPosted: Apr 23, 2003 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah thats very dangerous, they were not really designed for outboards or I/Os (at least as far as crusing without the rope)
You got to get real close to the boat for that, with a I/O or outboard its a fatality waiting to happen.

Hyperlite didn't put warnings about only using this with inboards?

Stop immediately if you are using this with the I/O.
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PostPosted: Apr 23, 2003 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I’ve wake surfed behind a few I.O's. we called it the extreme version. Shocked

Here are some wake surfing videos!
http://www.hyperlite.com/boards/popups/landlock_vid_select.asp
http://www.wakepics.com/view_single.php?medid=5524
http://www.wakepics.com/view_single.php?medid=5568
http://www.wakepics.com/view_single.php?medid=4603
http://www.wakepics.com/view_single.php?medid=5113
http://www.wakepics.com/view_single.php?medid=5105
http://www.wakepics.com/view_single.php?medid=4035




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PostPosted: Apr 24, 2003 11:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ooooh, HATERS Mad.
It sounds worse than it is, which is probably the problem because I'm not THAT close to the prop (just got my hair cut and dont need it shorter, thank you very much).
Idea I kinda get the feeling the landlock is a little too thin. Maybe slightly thicker would keep it on top of the water better?

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PostPosted: Apr 24, 2003 11:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Duke, thanks for the links. They were definately closer than I have ever been. Unfortunately, I couldn't seem to get such a clean "wave" off my boat, except at higher speeds Sad
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PostPosted: Apr 24, 2003 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would highly advise that you stop wakesurfing behind I/O's. Come on guys, common sense.
Extreme my ass. That's frickin suicide. An accident waiting to happen.

I guess this is proof that the theory of evolution is valid Neutral

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PostPosted: Apr 24, 2003 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, thats why I dont wear a life vest, so I'm more agile and can react quicker.
However, I am gonna stop smokin 'sherms' while driving to the lake Mr. Green
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PostPosted: Apr 24, 2003 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

not wearing a life vest thats real inteligent as well.
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PostPosted: Apr 24, 2003 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'm hopin that was sarcasm jbelson
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PostPosted: Apr 25, 2003 7:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What kind of I.O. are you riding behind? I’ve wakesurfed behind many I.O’s, I started wakesurfing behind a 28’ inboard outboard Cabin Cruiser and a 19’ inboard outboard Hydrodyne and the latest I.O. has been a 30’ Centurion Tsunami, Just be careful. As far as the life vest Mad PUT IT ON! To clean up the wake, try putting more weight on the side of the boat that you are surfing, along with working the trim of the out drive to adjust the prop wash you should be able to clean the wake up. The best speed should be between 9.5 and 14 mph.
The thickness of the board shouldn’t be an issue once the board is planning the thickness wont matter. The reason surf boards are built thinker is for paddling, the better a board floats the easer it is to create speed to catch a wave. You may want to try a longer board with more planning surface just to get the hang of it. Golden rule to remember, Idea the longer and flatter the rocker is in the board the faster it is, AND YOU ARE BEHIND AN I.O. Arrow (Chop chop right thru the prop) Good luck and PUT YOUR VEST ON!!




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PostPosted: Apr 25, 2003 7:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Duke,
Did you board behind the Tsunami, too? If so, how was the wake?

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PostPosted: Apr 25, 2003 7:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Duke, thanks for the tips.
Ahhh, the complexities of sarcasm. Of course I wear a vest, I'm not a Pro doing a photo shoot where I can influence a bunch of kids. However, I am serious about not smoking 'sherms' anymore while driving Wink
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PostPosted: Apr 25, 2003 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Did you board behind the Tsunami, too? If so, how was the wake?

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PostPosted: Apr 25, 2003 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wait, the Tsunami is an I/O
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PostPosted: Apr 28, 2003 10:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rolling Eyes Well, I tried the wakesurfer again this weekend. And for you 'safety sams' out there concerned about the i/o, you have to be plenty behind the boat. Because the prop is behind the boat rather than under it, the wake has a different dynamic, and wont even start to have shape till at least 10' behind, so your not right up on the back of the boat. The problem is I havent gotten a face on a wake yet, but still experimenting by moving all my buddies around.
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PostPosted: Apr 28, 2003 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

good luck next time
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PostPosted: Apr 29, 2003 9:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yelp the Tsunami is an I/O! I got to see one a couple years ago at Surf Expo. Very very cool boat. Word is the dealer where i bought my Avalanche from has one in stock.
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PostPosted: Apr 29, 2003 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here are a couple of pics of us wakesurfing at WSSR this past weekend:



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PostPosted: Apr 29, 2003 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

does the Tsunami throw out a good wakeboard wake?
-meaning up there with the Mastercrafts and Malibus
if so, it's the first I/O I have ever heard of that had a good shaped wake...

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PostPosted: Apr 30, 2003 8:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BillJ, What kinda boat are you behind? and how much weight/placement we talking? That wake looks so much nicer than mine. Mad
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PostPosted: Apr 30, 2003 10:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a 2002 Tige 20v. In these shots we were running about 600# and 5 people in the boat at 10.5mph and TAPS all the way up. The 20v and 22v put out a great surfing wake - very big and clean, as you can see. A few more pics...



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PostPosted: Apr 30, 2003 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey bill, I like the board you are using. I have the blue one. I really like the inland surfer boards.
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PostPosted: Apr 30, 2003 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had the big fins on mine and it was too slow. So I switched to the small fins and now it works great. You don't need huge fins anyway - we were able to ride the board finless even. If you haven't tried it you should, definitely good for some laughs.
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PostPosted: May 01, 2003 8:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mad I need a new boat Confused
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PostPosted: May 06, 2003 9:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nathan Newman wrote:
does the Tsunami throw out a good wakeboard wake?
-meaning up there with the Mastercrafts and Malibus
if so, it's the first I/O I have ever heard of that had a good shaped wake...


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PostPosted: May 07, 2003 7:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

so it has a good shape? Why don't they use the Tsunami for the pro tour? Why is it better than an X-Star?
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PostPosted: May 07, 2003 7:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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so it has a good shape? Why don't they use the Tsunami for the pro tour? Why is it better than an X-Star?
Without getting into Marketing 101. The simplest way to answer your question is MasterCraft pays for the exclusive rights to have their boats pull the Pro Tour. That’s very well known were have you been?
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PostPosted: May 07, 2003 7:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The X-Star is an average wake with a huge price tag. Bottom line.
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