Would you die for your country in the war against Iraq?

Jello John · Wakeboarder.Commie Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 1936

I'm just curious about what you guys think.

Todd Armstrong · Addict Joined: 04 Feb 2003 Posts: 758 City: Battle Ground

I would, but I know my life would be wasted

BIGMAC · Posted: Mar 23, 2003 11:49 pm Post subject:

I would.

DRAGON88 · Posted: Mar 24, 2003 12:08 am Post subject:

I would if it ment saveing lives I'd do it in a second.

Nor*Cal · Ladies Man Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 9479 City: Sac

The reason I support this war is because I am willing to lay down my life for this cause.

ohsix · Posted: Mar 24, 2003 7:51 am Post subject:

Todd- are you serious? Why would you do it if you think your life would be wasted? Are you suicidal or something?

I would be willing to die for my country as long as i supported the cause. In this case I do. If my life could save even a fraction of another life so that they could experience the freedom and happiness that i am able to in the United States that's an infinite amount of times better than dying of old age or any cause other than trying to save someone's life.

Bo Coppinger · Posted: Mar 24, 2003 10:00 am Post subject:

Yes I would.

Swass · Guest

That's not a question we can honestly answer until the bullets fly. Those who brag about how tuff they'll be are usually the ones who piss down their leg and then run the other way.

OttoNP · Addict Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 848 City: MI

It's an interesting question...

We could just bomb them from afar and have no U.S. casualties, of course than the Iraqi Civilian casualty count would be really high. So basically, the people that die are dying for the Iraqi Civilians.

Also, those that are going into combat aren't facing certain death. From the first conflict there was about 300 casualties, doubling that is 600 out of 400,000 troops, so you have a .15% chance of dying, I would definitely take that risk for this cause. There will also probably be less than 600 casualties. But if you asked me if I'd die for Iraqi Civilians I'd have to say no.

If I was in the military I would most definitely go and fulfill my duty, as I would if there was a draft and I was drafted.

Nick
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Sean_Brinston · Posted: Mar 24, 2003 12:59 pm Post subject:

I would for sure

DaveBrowning · Posted: Mar 24, 2003 1:01 pm Post subject:

I wish I could be there right now fighting "So-Damn-Insane"!!!! I hope to be a Navy SEAL someday... that would be awesome!!

kim · Addict Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Posts: 588 City: Orlando

I would

Butta Seeka · Posted: Mar 24, 2003 6:19 pm Post subject:

swass never fails to be the negative one, but yes i would and i do plan on joining the war if its still going on when i turn 18, im willing to die for my country. Never thought i would say that but recently i have thought more and more about it and thought of how many love ones that are there right now, how both my grandparents were in the army, my grandpa was in WWII, vietnam, and korea all 1st inflitry, he was one of the first men off the boats durin d-day, but he died from cancer from agent orange, but anyways. and sense swass might thinks that were all saying that were tuff or what ever well im not i dont wanna die but if it ment that the people i love my girlfriend, my friends, and my family can live in peace then i would galdly give up my life for there freedom

ohsix · Posted: Mar 24, 2003 6:55 pm Post subject:

i thought this quote kinda went with the subject
"No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country." Gen. George S. Patton

another Patton quote i like
"Give me an army of West Point graduates and I'll win a battle. Give me a handful of Texas Aggies and I'll win a war."

Swass · Guest

I'm sure there was a message in that heap somewhere, Wakejibberish, but all I could make out was my name.

Shawn Madison · Posted: Mar 24, 2003 7:31 pm Post subject:

Nor*Cal · Ladies Man Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 9479 City: Sac

Wes- I love those quotes.

criminally_minded · Posted: Mar 24, 2003 7:48 pm Post subject:

Nope. Not in this war anyway.

Ralph · Posted: Mar 24, 2003 7:55 pm Post subject:

If there was a general call up to defend NZ I would enlist, it would scare the shizzel out of me but I would not be a objector.

criminally_minded · Posted: Mar 24, 2003 7:59 pm Post subject:

Ralph: You read my mind.

Ralph · Posted: Mar 24, 2003 8:52 pm Post subject:

Really you'd defend NZ? Most Ausy's would just laugh and take all our sporting trophies.

Ralph · Posted: Mar 24, 2003 8:54 pm Post subject:

Not that there isn't any you haven't already taken. Bastards!

criminally_minded · Posted: Mar 24, 2003 8:58 pm Post subject:

Heh..

True!

No seriously, I would defend Australia, NZ, USA, UK, whatever, If they came under attack.

But mainly OZ/NZ, remember the ANZAC's!

Nor*Cal · Ladies Man Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 9479 City: Sac

You don't consider the death of those vacationing Aussies an Attack???

Josh R · Posted: Mar 24, 2003 10:00 pm Post subject:

I don't consider the death of Saddam the death of Islamic Indonesian Terrorism.

criminally_minded · Posted: Mar 24, 2003 10:04 pm Post subject:

NorCal - Yes, I do, But these are two different issues.

Nor*Cal · Ladies Man Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 9479 City: Sac

You eliminate an enabler to terrorist activity. You eliminate a nation that is willing to harbor terrorist. You eliminate a dictator who pays the families of suicide bombers. You eliminate a supplier of chemical and biological agents.

They aren't as seperate as you may think.

criminally_minded · Posted: Mar 24, 2003 10:53 pm Post subject:

All valid points, but they aren't the same enemy. Ties? Possibly. Probably. But I don't think the Bali Bombing was influenced at all by Saddam. Maybe history will prove me wrong, but we aren't privy to future history yet are we?

Nor*Cal · Ladies Man Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 9479 City: Sac

No I understand the stretch in connecting these things. I also don't believe Bali was connected to Saddam but in the greater picture of a War on Terrorism this is a good thing. Given this is most likely not your fight. This fight should be a combined effort of the UN. Or we should have gone all the way in 1991.

I posted this on Wakeworld also... 3 out of the 5 permanant members of the UN security counsel have been implicated in selling Iraq banned goods per the UN Resolutions. If the members of the UN can't uphold the treaties they have passed what is the point of a global governing organization???

I agree history can prove us all wrong. We may learn things tomorrow that make everything I've said invalid.

pedro · Posted: Mar 25, 2003 3:35 am Post subject:

Any members of the Forum from Iraq like to answer that question ?

OttoNP · Addict Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 848 City: MI

yeah, like they have the internet in Iraq...
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B-rad · Posted: Mar 25, 2003 7:30 am Post subject:

Have you all heard about the suppossed kid around 15 or 16 that is in Iraq on the net writting a diary of the events taken place? It seems to be pretty impartial to both sides from what I hear.

OttoNP · Addict Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 848 City: MI

What's the address? It is probably made up, internet access is limited in Iraq so I doubt a 15 or 16 year old can write a online diary. Additionally, why would it be in English? I really wish they had more of an internet presence, I think their point of view would be invaluable. It seems the best source for insight is from the Iraqis that are in the states now, they seem to be way in favor of the war.

Nick
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Leggester · Posted: Mar 25, 2003 9:08 am Post subject:

Uh, wakewhoever - you don't join to fight a particular war. You join the service and go where they send you, Guam, Germany... ...

Swass was not being negative. It's true that the 'biggest' talkers usually turn out to be fake. Look at all the posts about folks who are posers to wakeboarding.

It's one thing to join the service to fulfill a commitment to your country. It's possible you'll be put in harm's way. It's foolish to go out of your way to be in harm's way though.

The most successful soldiers are those with an extremely developed sense of survival. Let the other side loose soldiers, not us.

B-rad · Posted: Mar 25, 2003 1:50 pm Post subject:

Anyone that was in the service knows that the true bad asses were the guys that were just normal. The ones that acted all hard at basic did not make it, the ones that talked a lot when they got to there first duty station freaked out about going to NTC or Bosnia, Siani, etc.... It's been my opinon that the best method has always been more observation and thinking than talking up something you know nothing about.