screw technique its all the wake!

Cap'nPimp · Outlaw Joined: 22 Jun 2003 Posts: 131 City: Fenton

ive been working on about 3 different inverts recently. scarecrow, frontroll, roll to revert. i usually come up short on all of them. yesterday i went boarding with my buddy who got a new x-star. landed the frontroll and the scarecrow...and came close the the r2r. the wake was just so huge that everything was twice as easy. i hardly had to work to land anything. too bad i dont have the cash to get one myself.

SB_Boarder · Posted: Jun 08, 2004 3:49 pm Post subject:

Unfortunately you discovered the one secret of wakeboarding...the bigger your wake is, the easier it is to pull off those tricks you can;t land behind your fishing boat. I say unfortunatley, because now you will go spend $$ on more fat sacks and wake enhancing tools, or maybe even spring $$$$$$ for a new 50K boat.

I have a wakesetter lsv (23 ft) and when i rode behind my buddies wakesetter vlx (21 ft) my tricks were so much more consistant, and much bigger. And i landed tricks that i couldn;t behind my boat. And the differece between the two boats is minimal compared to the difference between say a vlx and an i/o. So just keep rippin and savor those times when you got to live the dream behind the perfect wake...

Blindside_137 · Posted: Jun 08, 2004 4:35 pm Post subject:

2 bad wakes are never perfect!!! Puppy Eyes

tWaker2 · Soul Rider Joined: 12 Jul 2003 Posts: 375 City: Gilroy, CA

Cap'nPimp, i know exactly how you feel. i ride behind an 18 ft I/O, but occasionally ride behind either an x-star, malibu, or SAN, and it is ridiculous how much easier the tricks are. I guess just be happy that you have a boat, and everything. I just try to hook up with someone that has a nice boat. Neutral

Mister C · Posted: Jun 08, 2004 7:39 pm Post subject:

Thats not to say, however, that you cant progress behind a boat that doesnt have a good wake. But it is nice to go out on the 50k boats and enjoy the big ones while you can.

J_DOGG · Posted: Jun 09, 2004 8:48 am Post subject:

The bigger wake is just giving you more time, it did nothing to improve your technique.

IMO- it's better to learn proper technique than to become a huck and luck rider (not sayn that is you, jst making a statement).
You will thank yourself in the long run, specially if the wake you ride behind most of the time is on the smaller side.

I actually like riding on a smaller wake some times just so I can get back to the basics and force myself to pound up and through the entire wake.

Don't get me wrong I like the BIG wake but it's not always the best for learning new tricks as most people have a tendency to leave earlier the bigger the wake gets and we all know that's NOT good!

Don't be fooled and think a biger wake makes you a better rider. it's all technique-IMO.

Cap'nPimp · Outlaw Joined: 22 Jun 2003 Posts: 131 City: Fenton

that is true about a bigger wake just gives you more time. but in my case i think thats all i need cause i dont think technique is my problem. i am a 200 lb. rider behind an 88 supra comp with a TINY wake. making it a little difficult to land inverts and raley based tricks. however, i think in a way, riding behind a crappy boat has helped me with my technique. now when i ride behind a nice boat, all the tricks i come up short on behind my boat, are made twice as easy. now all i need is the 50k+ to buy a decent boat.

bradb · Outlaw Joined: 09 Jan 2004 Posts: 204 City: Parksville

Cap'nPimp,
Throw a fat sack or some big rubber-maid containers with some water in the back. I used to ride behind a supra comp of the same vintage, and the wake was great. Even un-weighted, the trick wake was big with a nice peak to it compared to a lot of comp boats. Does your boat have the wake plate on the back? maybe some adjustment of that would help??? I don't know... (maybe that's not really what its for...) just a suggestion...
B

Cap'nPimp · Outlaw Joined: 22 Jun 2003 Posts: 131 City: Fenton

yes, i have the wake plate, but i dont think its adjustable. i have around 350 lbs. in the back and usually ride with about 4 other people so i have it pretty full. i can get it bigger then that though if i put everything i have in it, but that burns gas like none other. and i dont really want to spend $30 every day to fill it up. and no the wake is not even close to big or have a nice peak if it is not weighted. its meant to be a world class water ski boat.

bradb · Outlaw Joined: 09 Jan 2004 Posts: 204 City: Parksville

Cap'nPimp,
On the supra comp ts6m that I used to ski behind, it was adjusted with the turn of a few bolts... I've skied/boarded behind a '89, and a 92. I know they are supposed to be world class water ski, but it's also 16 yrs old... Ever tried to ski behind an old nautique??? The wake was like a brick wall! Plus, they are also designed to give no wake at 36mph, not 22mph. At that speed, the trick wake should be nice!
Not tryin to argue... I'd love a new wakeboard boat too... I know there is no compairison (I currently have a '94 nautique), but you should still have no probs doing basic inverts behind your boat - even unweighted and without a tower.
Keep practising, and it will be a cinch next time you are out with the big wake.
B

Cap'nPimp · Outlaw Joined: 22 Jun 2003 Posts: 131 City: Fenton

i can do basic inverts. i mean, the wake isnt horrible with some weight, im just sayin that a better boat makes a pretty big difference. its alot more fun and esier to learn tricks that require a little more air. one end end of the wake plate is bolted to the boat while the other end is held by two adjustable rods. i dont think it can be adjusted because the end is bolted to the boat. maybe im wrong though.