NEED MORE BACKROLL HELP

cvach · Criminal Joined: 11 Jul 2007 Posts: 51 City: Royal Oak

Sorry guys, I'm sure you are all sick of these backroll questions, but I am having serious issues. About 3 summer agos I landed the backroll after a few trys. I went to do it again on my next run and came up short on the rotation and killed myself(not literally, but awful fall). I havent been able to land it since then. I dont know if its my rotation or something else? Everytime my board comes back around it seems to cut across the path of where I am holding the rope and rips it out of my hand. I land on my heels everytime without the rope.

Ive researched higher ed, this site, you tube videos, etc. Im sorry I cant post a video but my camera is to old and my comp is to new. In my analysis everything looks correct up to where my body is horizontal with the water. After that my body starts to crunch into a tuck and then the handle gets ripped from my hand no matter how hard I hold on.

Does anyone have any suggestions? I would greatly appreciate any help. Let me know if I need to clairfy anything.

jpminter · Posted: Jul 23, 2007 9:45 am Post subject:

It's almost impossible to tell what the problem is without video.

cvach · Criminal Joined: 11 Jul 2007 Posts: 51 City: Royal Oak

yea sorry about that. when i get home from work today ill try to do some kind of ghetto file transfer for you.

I have the progressive edge, the pop, I stand tall. I think its some kind of mexi roll or something. Ill post a vid soon.

Thanks a lot mang.

michigan boarder · Soul Rider Joined: 03 Jun 2007 Posts: 333 City: MI

i agree that a vid would help...but it may just be a huge mental block cuz of ur fall idk just my two cents

howabouttheiris · Addict Joined: 16 Jun 2005 Posts: 677 City: Austin, TX

The only time I have seen a backroll getting into the rope is if you are not throwing the board behind you far enough when you start the loop.

If you throw it straight up you can collapse into the rope vs spinning. Althought I have never seen anyone do this and get all the way around to their heels....

video will help.

cvach · Criminal Joined: 11 Jul 2007 Posts: 51 City: Royal Oak

i probably explained it incorrectly. it was hard for me to explain, and im sure its even harder for you guys to visualize. Ill def try to get that video up when i get home.

i greatly appreciate all the help

cvach · Criminal Joined: 11 Jul 2007 Posts: 51 City: Royal Oak

The links are attached below. I managed to video the previously taken clip off my tv. I apologize for the poor quality. If you can't tell from these videos I can try to re-do it.

Let me know what you guys think! Thanks for your help.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3A_X4myl-U&mode=user&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZVHqszqS5M&mode=user&search=

k9fxr · Outlaw Joined: 07 Mar 2003 Posts: 199 City: MI

Ha, that looks just like me, same problem,'
You are doing a mexiroll, I can't get to a regular progressive roll, because like you, my head is coming down and forward as I bend over at the waste.
You need to figure out how to stay tall and upright as you roll it tip over tail, not rail over rail
Let me know if you figure out some good key thoughts

jpminter · Posted: Jul 23, 2007 7:04 pm Post subject:

Haha awesome video!!

Firstly, you don't need to cut out that far at all. Start out about half as far out. You're edge is fine, just start closer in. When you hit the wake, concentrate on going up with it first. I think you can get it.

cvach · Criminal Joined: 11 Jul 2007 Posts: 51 City: Royal Oak

Haha yea that video is wack.

jpminter · Posted: Jul 24, 2007 6:55 am Post subject:

Yes! You only look over your lead shoulder to spot your landing. That's the last thing you should be doing before your land. To initiate a backroll, just tuck your ear to your back shoulder.

Think of it as a cartwheel. If you're standing still about to do a cartwheel, the first thing you do is drop your ear to a shoulder to get momentum and then you put your hand on the ground followed by your other hand, etc etc. They are the same pretty much except for the fact that a backroll is kind of a reverse cartwheel. They move in the opposite direction. Don't worry about that though. The initiation is the same.

cvach · Criminal Joined: 11 Jul 2007 Posts: 51 City: Royal Oak

haha. wow no wonder my rotation is sooo wrong. ive been looking up over my front shoulder for the past 3-4 years. haha. its hard being self taught. You would think after 30+ attempts that I would realize something was wrong and try to change it. I guess I just figured I got it once so i would get it again eventually.

what your saying completely makes sense. Thank you so much for your help. Ill give it a try sometime in the next couple weeks and let u know how it goes. I know Ill be able to finally land it.

Thanks for all the help. Youre the man

cvach · Criminal Joined: 11 Jul 2007 Posts: 51 City: Royal Oak

i finally got it a few times this past week. thanks for all the help

endlessracingz · Newbie Joined: 25 Jul 2007 Posts: 16

How late do you want to initiate the rotation? Should you have a lot of your weight loaded on your trailing foot right before you hit the top of the wake?