Someone please explain "heat moldable liners"

HHI Dave

Title says it all.

Got my '06 Shane Ltds yesterday. There were instructions for the pro-plate (not that it was needed Laughing

) but no explanation about heat molding the liner.

Thanks. Cool

pooser · Wakeboarder.com Freak Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 4738

HHI Dave, you don't. ronix and slingshot are the only companies that you need to stick the boots in an oven. your bindings will mold to your feet over time. if you want stick your bindings in a really hot bath and then put them on, this will help mold them faster.

HHI Dave · Posted: Apr 27, 2007 11:28 am Post subject:

pooser, Why does Liquid Force talk about "the original heat moldable 6D liner" when describing the Shane boots? Question

http://www.bizrate.com/wakeboardingequipment/oid477419248.html

http://www.liquidforce.com/bindings_shane.htm

scott a · Ladies Man Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 9810

From what I've read and been told, they seem to mold over time.

Elysia · Outlaw Joined: 13 Apr 2007 Posts: 105

you have to bake ronix's? i have a pair of ONES but they arent molded yet

LakeIolaLuke · Posted: Apr 27, 2007 2:50 pm Post subject:

HHI Dave, They'll mold over time, but they mold much quicker if heated. Don't put them in the oven though, tape the trigger down on a blowdryer on low speed, high heat, and pop it in the binding for 5 minutes. Then wear the binding like a shoe for 10 minutes or so, make sure you flex it around in a similar fashion to how it would be flexed on your board.

HHI Dave · Posted: Apr 27, 2007 5:39 pm Post subject:

LakeIolaLuke, Thanks man.

No wonder Perf Ski gave you the job. Mr. Green

Elysia · Outlaw Joined: 13 Apr 2007 Posts: 105

HHI Dave, hahahahhahaahahah... Rolling Eyes

jhilly8982 · Addict Joined: 04 Oct 2006 Posts: 782 City: Northville

LakeIolaLuke, you can bake them in an oven

search threads on this

nickl011 · Posted: Apr 27, 2007 7:02 pm Post subject:

jhilly8982, I think Luke might know a little more about it than you, no offence. He does work at a ballin' @$$ store. And to my knowledge shoke the hand of the man who landed two 1080's (Rusty).

Anyways, isnt this the same case as braking in shoes? I mean you wear the bindings for an couple sessions and it molds to your foot, isn't that just like shoes?

jhilly8982 · Addict Joined: 04 Oct 2006 Posts: 782 City: Northville

LFPIMP, no, heat molding liners are not new to me, even if luke works at a board shop he is going to tell you to use their method because it is the store policy, i have been baking hockey skates for 12 years instead of using the "store method" and i know that a heat molded liner in a wakeboard boot is similar to hockey skates. I also know that before the heat molding hockey skate machines came out that pros and pro equip manager have been baking their skates in an oven for the past 10-15 years.

In fact when you bought a pair of high end hockey skates in the 90's they told you to bake them in your oven

Elysia · Outlaw Joined: 13 Apr 2007 Posts: 105

LFPIMP, why dont you wash his balls for him while your at it...B!@ATCH! Shocked

nickl011 · Posted: Apr 27, 2007 7:34 pm Post subject:

jhilly8982, Okay, I see where your comming from Wink

Elysia, still havent gotten that sand out of your vagina have you Shocked

And WTF are you talking about Rolling Eyes

Elysia · Outlaw Joined: 13 Apr 2007 Posts: 105

LFPIMP, ohh sand...burn... Rolling Eyes

and i think you know what im talking about...

nickl011 · Posted: Apr 27, 2007 7:41 pm Post subject:

nickl011 · Posted: Apr 27, 2007 7:41 pm Post subject:

So are the are there diff fabric in the LF bindings, than the Ronix?

Elysia · Outlaw Joined: 13 Apr 2007 Posts: 105

LFPIMP, IT's ON! Twisted Evil

no i havn't ive only "started two."
and aight tucan sam "thats not how a role playa" officially stamped "WHITE" Rolling Eyes

I just read your comment about LakeIolaLuke, and that screamed total b!tch so i had to say something.... Mr. Green

and to answer that question no

nickl011 · Posted: Apr 27, 2007 7:56 pm Post subject:

Remind me of this comment, and wich thread its in. And two battles can get you alot of enemies and usually ends up in you getting banned, for a heads up. I am "WHITE", whatcha gonna do about it. I cant really trust your info since you've been know to post totall stuff.

Elysia · Outlaw Joined: 13 Apr 2007 Posts: 105

yeah dont trust me since i have the ones... Rolling Eyes

oh stop stop your scaring me... Puppy Eyes

Elysia · Outlaw Joined: 13 Apr 2007 Posts: 105

oh and the fact that ive tried all of the LF bindings out there and every binding possibly out there right now...since i go to Ambush a lot.
cudos to Ambush Cool

nickl011 · Posted: Apr 27, 2007 8:04 pm Post subject:

Still didnt remind me. To clear things up, are you a boy or girl. You talk like a guy, but have a girl display name, whats up with that.

Elysia · Outlaw Joined: 13 Apr 2007 Posts: 105

LFPIMP, first of all your a dumbsh!t look up what elysia means... and not only that it's a band...

wait no...your prob to dumb to do that so ill just copy and paste for you...

Elysia

Elysium \E*ly"sium\, n.; pl. E. Elysiums, L. Elysia. [L., fr. Gr. ?, ? ?, Elysian field.] (Anc. Myth.) 1. A dwelling place assigned to happy souls after death; the seat of future happiness; Paradise.

2. Hence, any delightful place.

An Elysian more pure and bright than that pf the Greeks. --I. Taylor.

nickl011 · Posted: Apr 27, 2007 8:26 pm Post subject:

Right, you still didnt remind me, im beginning to doubt there was such post, cause I cant remember what so called post your talking about. Yeah I'm most deff a dumbsh!t. Rolling Eyes

-rsklhm- · Posted: Apr 27, 2007 8:27 pm Post subject:

Elysia, are you just gonna sit on your computer and run your mouth to everybody? Almost every thread I look at your startin some type of argument, seriously man...
HHI Dave, the hair dryer or warm water reccomendations work to speed up the molding process but just like said above its not necessarily needed. Enjoy the 06's I've loved mine.

Elysia · Outlaw Joined: 13 Apr 2007 Posts: 105

remind you of what? how your sucking LakeIolaLuke's, nuts? or how stupid you are?

Elysia · Outlaw Joined: 13 Apr 2007 Posts: 105

-rsklhm-, mmm no... im done the kids 9 and this argument isnt very entertaining any more.

LakeIolaLuke · Posted: Apr 27, 2007 9:21 pm Post subject:

jhilly8982, don't the liners come out of hockey boots? LF and Ronix bindings do not, so the metal grommets around the drain holes will melt the vynil on the overlays if you stick them in the oven at anything over 250F. That's why ronix literature recommends you let your shop mold them rather than sticking them in the oven

RC · Addict Joined: 10 Sep 2006 Posts: 771 City: Tuscaloosa

Elysia, like i said before, all you do is talk crap and its getting pretty old.

and they advise to not put them in a oven but thats only because theyre afraid some kids gonna f-up his bindings and claim the warranty. i stuck mine in my kitchen oven at 250 for 5 minutes and it works fine. just watch them and make sure they dont melt.

jhilly8982 · Addict Joined: 04 Oct 2006 Posts: 782 City: Northville

LakeIolaLuke, there are no liners in hockey skates, let alone hockey boots, you can bake them with the chasis and steel blade attached, again, i give wakeboard companies credit for following high performance boots in terms of feet molding. also the first hockey skate baking maching looked like a toaster oven.

P.S. the ronix and LF liner baking machines are an exact copy of the CCM hockey skate molding ovens

jhilly8982 · Addict Joined: 04 Oct 2006 Posts: 782 City: Northville

can i follow up with that chad sharpe is a hockey player, canadien, and morphed the idea from hockey...not knocking it at all, i think it is awesome

jhilly8982 · Addict Joined: 04 Oct 2006 Posts: 782 City: Northville

jeesh, i just finished reading the article on wakeworld.com i don't like that he doesn't reference hockey skates when he talks about the ronix personalized boots...

tpj · Outlaw Joined: 31 Jan 2007 Posts: 158

bindings might be heat moldable, but everytime i have got my skates molded, at least with grafs, it gets pretty hot. i dont think that wakeboard bindings can take that heat. also, for the ccm machines, your foot goes in the skate and gets baked but i havent seen the ronix oven...

nickl011 · Posted: Apr 28, 2007 1:39 pm Post subject:

Elysia, seriously, making crap up on the internet to make yourself feel better is really pittyful, did your dad rape you, then get some counsoling. Oh yeah I'm 9? Heck you sure act your age yourself. What a loser Rolling Eyes

HHI Dave, Sorry about the thread jack, some people dont follow RC's sig.

Elysia · Outlaw Joined: 13 Apr 2007 Posts: 105

LFPIMP, no your 14. haha DOUBLE DIGITS! what did i make up? pretty lame come backs. "LOSER" Laughing

RC · Addict Joined: 10 Sep 2006 Posts: 771 City: Tuscaloosa

does anyone like Elysia?