backyard cable run

wake_carver · Outlaw Joined: 04 Nov 2005 Posts: 157 City: sydney

hey guys heres my design, keep in mind their will be enough room in the lake to cut out around the corners, other than that...... 2 towers at either end with big pulleys driven by an electric motor. prob cost bout $10,000
and heaps of fun once3 its built Smile

the rope will permanantly be on the cable but it is spring loaded or whateva and when u catch it on the dock when it comes roun u will have enough time as it stretches to go and when u fall off it will go bac up higher and not hit u in the head when it comes bac round, im also hoping it will give you a massive load on the line for airs. ideas? comments?

icanollie121 · Criminal Joined: 23 Jul 2006 Posts: 53

that sounds awfully hard!

but i say go for it. that would be pretty cool!

wake_carver · Outlaw Joined: 04 Nov 2005 Posts: 157 City: sydney

nah its simple really, the hardest thing will b the towers, they have too b heaps strong.

howabouttheiris · Addict Joined: 16 Jun 2005 Posts: 677 City: Austin, TX

Anything you can do to reduce the 180s at the end would help....

... the cable will get to the corner before you and start coming back, killing your line tension and letting you sink... (then pulling you violently over backwards)

I do not believe being outside on the corner will change this.

You need 4 posts minimum, and there is a minimum post to post distance on the corners..... I am sure anyone with access to OWC or TSR could let you know the earliest you can possibly be "reset" after a corner. I guess it is at least 10 meters.

I also think you will need something a little more fancy than a spring on the handle... a better idea may a clutch on the motor and someone on the controls) to slow the motor as the handle gets close and to speed up the handle as you go to get up.

howabouttheiris · Addict Joined: 16 Jun 2005 Posts: 677 City: Austin, TX

reread your post... if you meant 2 towers at 'each' end, ignore my 1st part

nfn · Soul Rider Joined: 25 Apr 2005 Posts: 388 City: Sioux City

I dont think the "spring loaded" line is gonna do what you anticipate. You can load a normal line with plenty of tension and get plenty of air.

nickl011 · Posted: Apr 18, 2007 4:52 am Post subject:

with only two towers, wouldnt you get really crappy sessions, since there are only two places to build you line tension.

nfn, I think the "spring loaded line" is for when you arent near a pulley so you can still get plenty of air and still build line tension away from a pulley.

LakeIolaLuke · Posted: Apr 18, 2007 6:06 am Post subject:

I think a spring loaded line would might not work very well. I'td give too much to really do anything

Wakebrad · Ladies Man Joined: 11 Dec 2003 Posts: 12257 City: Dallas

So all you need now is a 150x400 ft lake in your backyard...

For personal use a winch is the solution.

devon · Posted: Apr 18, 2007 6:24 am Post subject:

i definately think you should just get a winch, you plan is not to complicated but in the long ri\un you dont want to waste $10,000
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BOATTRASHER UNLMTD. · Newbie Joined: 31 Jan 2007 Posts: 26 City: Milwaukee

maybe a winch but you can polish your skills much better with the cable because you can keep hitting rails.

i suppose a winch would woek but that is alot of work to pull the line back and have someone at the controls.

martin pearce · Criminal Joined: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 53

why so u need the spring for wen u start? cos u can start on normal cable with no slowing down or anything. and it wont give u extra air as u will cut and stretch the spring then wen u go to realse the spring will just recoil sorta???? i think

would be wicked havin a cable in ya garden tho

nfn · Soul Rider Joined: 25 Apr 2005 Posts: 388 City: Sioux City

The "spring loaded" line is just gonna allow you to stretch out further. It will actually take away line tension, thus not allowing you to do air tricks. Like martin pearce said you don't need the spring for starts, normal cable will do.

LFPIMP, at a cable park you can load the line anywhere to do air tricks, you dont necessarily need to be close to a pulley or tower.

Riding cable with a "spring loaded" line would be the same as wakeboarding behind a boat with a ski rope. Not fun!

icanollie121 · Criminal Joined: 23 Jul 2006 Posts: 53

wow I seriously think this is the coolest idea ever!!!

timmyDecker · Outlaw Joined: 22 May 2006 Posts: 187 City: Manhattan...KS

As nfn pointed out: spring loaded line = stretchy rope.
As everyone on this forum would probably tell you, non-strech rope = good; stretchy rope = the devil.
I've never ridden on a cable though, so my math might be a little off on those equations.

martin pearce · Criminal Joined: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 53

i think u may want to use normal ski rope that is stretchy cables do. u build the tension up through that and the the stretch of the cable. sorta gone back on what i said bit but i dont think a spring will do the same job. im mumbling a bit Very Happy

K-wood Kid · Posted: Apr 19, 2007 1:25 pm Post subject:

Hate to burst your bubble but the engine, towers, and cable used at a normal cable park is about $500,000 so even if you only had 2 towers, you would still be looking at atleast $250,000.

biglouie · Outlaw Joined: 02 Aug 2006 Posts: 135

your homeowner insurance agent doesn't live nearby you, does he?

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Wakebrad · Ladies Man Joined: 11 Dec 2003 Posts: 12257 City: Dallas

ontrider,

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wake_carver · Outlaw Joined: 04 Nov 2005 Posts: 157 City: sydney

lol thats pretty much exactly what i had in mind!,
remember guys this is just a backyard thing with a budget of $10,000
mainly i want to use it to hit dragon sliders and kickers that we have, would a shorter rope and the rider cutting out around the corner solve the sinking problem?
a winch impractacle for me even though i am currently making one, its just that u gotta pull it back to the start over and over and then put your boots on while the operater trys to keep his temper cause u keep startin again, hmmmm well maybe two pulleys like 5m apart at each end would fix the slowing down problem as well?
well if i used just ski rope i wouldnt want to grap it at 22mph ive experienced that behing the boat when i go on the inside when its turning Rolling Eyes

but back to the quistion....... would it work? just for muckin roun, not for pro cabling or whateva... just to ride as much as u want

nfn · Soul Rider Joined: 25 Apr 2005 Posts: 388 City: Sioux City

Wakebrad · Ladies Man Joined: 11 Dec 2003 Posts: 12257 City: Dallas

wake_carver, I don't think your current design would work. If you wanted to add some remote electronics it might. You would need a waterproof remote control that would just have a start/stop button. That way you can sit in the water and stop the line when the handle gets to you and then click start and start from wherever.

If you cut out all the way to the side and run the cable at 18mph you might be ok around the corner. But if you did the start/stop remote and that didn't work you could just stop the cable. Really if you're planning on throwing $10k into this thats a pretty minimal expense.

I actually do think this could work but you are going to have to do a lot of work. You should probably take the designs to a structural engineer and have them review it so they know the forces involved.

martin pearce · Criminal Joined: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 53

dont get why you are concerned about startin at a instant speedjust have a little dock thing to jump off like at a cable will be fine

H20orSnowLetsGo · Posted: Apr 22, 2007 1:54 pm Post subject:

I wish one of the local lakes had a cable park. I live in a great outdoor recreation area, yet there is no cable park Sad

carcrz · Newbie Joined: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 32

Sounds like you should start your own!!!

Wakebrad · Ladies Man Joined: 11 Dec 2003 Posts: 12257 City: Dallas

martin pearce, going off a dock requires a complex line regulating device and an operator. This is a huge part of where the expense is in the cable systems. I think the intent of this is to be able to do it by yourself. I don't think the spring loaded line would work though.

K-wood Kid · Posted: Apr 23, 2007 3:39 pm Post subject:

Texas Ski Ranch pulls at 19.4mph

nfn · Soul Rider Joined: 25 Apr 2005 Posts: 388 City: Sioux City

wake_carver · Outlaw Joined: 04 Nov 2005 Posts: 157 City: sydney

so everyones sayin that it could work, but not to use the spring loaded line, any suggestions what else i could use? or should i just have a switch on the dock that i can flick and it'l start and when i fall off just swim to the dock and turn it off when it comes bac around? so just use normal rope?

wake_carver · Outlaw Joined: 04 Nov 2005 Posts: 157 City: sydney

lol before u all say " u'll hit the bank" and stuff this is really rough lol.