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Iukekini Newbie

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Wakebrad Ladies Man


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Posted: Mar 30, 2007 1:57 pm Post subject: |
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Good video, thanks for posting.
I'm a little skeptical of the recoil theory. I always thought you launched from the middle of the board. So if the middle compresses and then releases as you come off the wake it would actually lessen the pop. If you pop off the tail and the board releases it will recoil the tail into the wake and create more lift.
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snowboardcorey Soul Rider

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Posted: Mar 30, 2007 2:35 pm Post subject: |
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I'm gonna have to ride one before I pass judgment but it seems a little backwards to me. I ride a fairly stiff snowboard so that I can load it up more and get more spring off of it. It seems like a more flexible board would have less recoil.
I do like the super thin sidewalls, it seems like a good way to generate better edge hold than board with big fat side walls.
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devon Wakeboarder.Commie

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Posted: Mar 31, 2007 12:49 pm Post subject: |
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colefooter Wakeboarder.com Freak

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Posted: Mar 31, 2007 2:12 pm Post subject: |
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Works for me.
Interesting idea, i agree with Wakebrad. It seems like you wouldn't spring off the wake because of a bit of flex, though I would really have to try it to completely understand. I can see how that would help on softer landings though, that's pretty neat.
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LFADAM PityDaFool Who Posts This Much


Joined: 25 Aug 2003 Posts: 5283 City: New York City
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Posted: Mar 31, 2007 2:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Very interesting. Id definetely want to demo one, if they did a TAA kind of thing
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nickl011 Wakeboarder.Commie


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Posted: Mar 31, 2007 3:46 pm Post subject: |
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this could be the next thing to revolutionize wakeboarding like the closed toe bindings and twin tip design.
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Josh R Wakeboarder.com Freak


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Stephan Guest
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Posted: Apr 01, 2007 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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| My buddy just got picked up by Slingshot. So far everyone of our crew said it rides incredibly well. I guess the pop is wake to wake and straight vertical. Not a board you want to take into the flats. I'm really looking forward to riding it this coming weekend. I will be sure to explain its ride. I can't wait, my boys are raving about it.
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Ralph Wakeboarder.Commie


Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 1144 City: Auckland, New Zealand
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Posted: Apr 01, 2007 10:05 pm Post subject: |
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Stephan would you be able to ask your bud for an email address to ask about getting the dealership for NZ?
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devon Wakeboarder.Commie

Joined: 20 Sep 2006 Posts: 1367 City: Ottawa
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Posted: Apr 02, 2007 5:26 am Post subject: |
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| LFPIMP wrote: | | this could be the next thing to revolutionize wakeboarding like the closed toe bindings and twin tip design. |
what do you meen, whats the difference between slingshot and any others
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alafiaboarder Wakeboarder.Commie


Joined: 03 Oct 2003 Posts: 1208 City: Gaines Hell
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Posted: Apr 03, 2007 2:10 pm Post subject: |
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| devon wrote: | | what do you meen, whats the difference between slingshot and any others |
i hate to do it, but its mean. Also, the difference is that they flex... u should probably try and read the forum first, but you know, that's just my approach
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alafiaboarder Wakeboarder.Commie


Joined: 03 Oct 2003 Posts: 1208 City: Gaines Hell
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Posted: Apr 03, 2007 2:14 pm Post subject: |
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and the bindings bolt pattern is different, slingshot boots work with slingshot boards only. my friend john rode it and his riding was alot more vertical than into the flats, said it came down really really soft but would take some time getting used to it. the sidewalls are also as thin as snowboards, they are really light. i plan on ridin it next week so ill write up on how it works, hopefully get some video on it
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LFADAM PityDaFool Who Posts This Much


Joined: 25 Aug 2003 Posts: 5283 City: New York City
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Posted: Apr 03, 2007 2:34 pm Post subject: |
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alafiaboarder, dont break it.
devon, dude Im with alafia here, please read the thread and therefore WATCH the video, then post.
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pooser Wakeboarder.com Freak

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Posted: Apr 03, 2007 3:42 pm Post subject: |
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slingshot boots work with slingshot boards only.
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other way around.
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alafiaboarder Wakeboarder.Commie


Joined: 03 Oct 2003 Posts: 1208 City: Gaines Hell
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Posted: Apr 03, 2007 3:50 pm Post subject: |
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well unless there is an adapter i must have missed, i didnt know the boots would work on other boards cuz its a 4 bolt straight into the board in a small square pattern. i was talkin to jeff at some tige' thing and was gonna demo but the water sucked, oh yea and about breakin stuff, i just ripped the inserts out of my covenant at owc, but apparently, thats been happenin to alot of people, andrew adkison let me ride his setup at owc for a few passes and i want to go ride his transcend behind boat, i liked the way it rode, pretty damn fast compared to last year
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alafiaboarder Wakeboarder.Commie


Joined: 03 Oct 2003 Posts: 1208 City: Gaines Hell
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Posted: Apr 03, 2007 4:02 pm Post subject: |
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scrizzatch that, read in a different forum they have an adapter plate, suprised they didnt tell me that when i was at the slingshot tent at that demo...hmmmmm
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nickl011 Wakeboarder.Commie


Joined: 14 Jan 2007 Posts: 1711 City: Fargo
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Posted: Apr 03, 2007 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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So can Slingshot boots be compatible with other boards, or slingshot boards be compatible with other boots. These boars seam alittle brittle, what do they have as far as rods in the core, titanium, platinum, GOLD
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Iukekini Newbie

Joined: 18 Jan 2003 Posts: 36 City: Portland
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Posted: Apr 04, 2007 3:08 am Post subject: |
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Wakebrad, The board stores up energy in your cut and releases it off the wake giving you more pop.
snowboardcorey, The boards are stiffer than any snowboard I have ever seen.
LFADAM, No one has ever broken a slingshot board. Not to say that it wont happen but it hasn't yet.
Slingshot boots can be put on any board with our transition plate, but to ride our boards you have to use our boot.
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Punkpenguin Outlaw

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Posted: Apr 04, 2007 5:20 am Post subject: |
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| How long has slingshot been in wakeboarding? i've only seen em in kiteboarding..
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devon Wakeboarder.Commie

Joined: 20 Sep 2006 Posts: 1367 City: Ottawa
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Posted: Apr 04, 2007 6:28 am Post subject: |
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| LFADAM wrote: | | devon, dude Im with alafia here, please read the thread and therefore WATCH the video, then post. |
the video wasnt working for me
now it is and i see the difference
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devon Wakeboarder.Commie

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Posted: Apr 04, 2007 6:29 am Post subject: |
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can you buy slingshot boards anywhere yet?
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Wakebrad Ladies Man


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Posted: Apr 04, 2007 7:05 am Post subject: |
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Ok, assuming the board pops high like people say it does this is the way I see it working. This assumes that you launch off the center of your board and that the board flex is very quick and responsive. If you actually launch off your tail then you could get extra lift if the board is not quite as responsive because of the pressure built when the nose rides up the wake.
Any energy that is stored during the cut is discharged as soon as the nose of the board hit's the wake. The only extra energy the board could use to spring is what it generated close to or at the crest of the wake. This would mean that your timing would have to be very good to get the board to recoil at the right time.
This is still over-simplified and I would assume that slingshot has taken this to a structural engineer and gotten stress/tension mappings done and probably has this far more detailed than I do. Let me know if I have anything wrong here.

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devon Wakeboarder.Commie

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Posted: Apr 04, 2007 7:07 am Post subject: |
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does that mean the one with a contiuos rocker would get alote of straight up pop?
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Gwakesetter Criminal

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Posted: Apr 04, 2007 7:35 am Post subject: |
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I have been on the response twice and the first ride everyone in the boat was saying that I was going twice as high on both sides, the response does pop up, but it also puts me in the flats which I normally would not like because of my bad knee, but the board lands so soft it does not matter. The second time I rode I landed a toeside frontroll and a toeside three for the first time. I love the board and the boots, I am going to OWC next week and I am very excited about having a board that flexes this much on rails.
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Wakebrad Ladies Man


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Posted: Apr 04, 2007 7:54 am Post subject: |
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devon, the drawing is supposed to be the slingshot board in different stages of it flexing. The drawing is over-exaggerated to show my point.
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Posted: Apr 04, 2007 8:08 am Post subject: |
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| Wakebrad, what it means is that a board that uses its flex to assist in generating pop needs to be ridden corrrectly. You have to use a shorter progressive edge and be in a good position to make it boost. I'll be hitting it this Friday.
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Wakebrad Ladies Man


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Posted: Apr 04, 2007 9:56 am Post subject: |
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The point of my drawing is to show that any energy that is stored before you hit the wake is lost in the transition up the wake. The only energy that is stored is while the board rides up the wake. I wonder how that will affect the different cuts into the wake. If it will recoil as much on a spin edge (flatten off at the top) vs a raley edge (board very on edge).
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LFADAM PityDaFool Who Posts This Much


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Posted: Apr 04, 2007 11:30 am Post subject: |
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| Iukekini, I believe you, I was just making a crack at alafia because he has a history of breaking boards.
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Posted: Apr 04, 2007 2:45 pm Post subject: |
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| jeff mckee is so AWESOME
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Posted: Apr 24, 2007 5:20 am Post subject: |
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| When can I buy one?
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itch Wakeboarder.com Freak


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Chattwake Wakeboarder.com Freak


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Posted: Apr 24, 2007 9:37 am Post subject: |
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| Overboard watersports in Knoxville has them fairly cheap. My friend Doug is one of the owners. They'll hook you up on slingshot gear. I haven't ridden one yet, but all of the guys at the shop are raving about how they ride. To bad they look so .... well I'll let you make your own decisions on that.
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Posted: Apr 24, 2007 10:04 am Post subject: |
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If anybody wants to try a Slingshot in the D/FW area feel free to swing by NorTex WaterSports. We've got them in and have been riding them for a week or so. The main thing that everybody agrees on is that they are the softest landing anybody has ever felt, in the flats, cassing the wake, or landing perfectly on the down side of the wake, it doesn't really matter, landing are super soft. Pop is awsome but just take's a little time to get dialed in, its a slightly different approach and the timing is a little diff. but once you get it down its pretty amazing. Check them out.
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Posted: Apr 24, 2007 1:02 pm Post subject: |
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| What is the difference between the Response and the Recoil?
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