effect the wake?

thekpan · Outlaw Joined: 11 Jun 2006 Posts: 168 City: Dallas

my dad wants to get a hydro foil thing thing that goes on my i/o to make it plan faster, he thinks it will help for some reason, will it mess my wake up alot? or could it make it better maybe by acting as a wake plate. i got a link so you guys have an idea what im talking about http://www.overtons.com/modperl/overtons/order/items2.cgi?request=aisle&catnum=2C13A tell me what yall think or know

QNev · Posted: Sep 03, 2006 4:01 pm Post subject:

If you trim up a little bit it may help bring the back end down. It will most likely help the wake.

BIGMAC · Posted: Sep 03, 2006 6:47 pm Post subject:

I think a different prop would make it plane faster than that foil.

Justin 25 · Addict Joined: 29 Aug 2006 Posts: 797

A better prop would make it plane faster than that hydro-foil thing, I really don't know if that would mess with the wake, are there reviews for it at other sites?

Lady Ortunas · Outlaw Joined: 09 Jul 2006 Posts: 109

We have one of those "whale-tail" things on our boat and really all it did for us was just make the boat plane-out faster (which was good for our old boat.)

thekpan · Outlaw Joined: 11 Jun 2006 Posts: 168 City: Dallas

i read one and it said it planes faster by pushing the front down..which would make a bigger wake, but the actualy tail might mess the shape up?

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Roos · Outlaw Joined: 31 Jul 2006 Posts: 192

it will push the front down when trying to plane, read engine fully trimmed in.
But when wakeboarding you should have your trim a little above nutral and that would rather push the back of the boat down. Thus making the same effect as adding ballast to the back of the boat.
Need more power to keep the same speed, needs more speed to keep on plane and wake gets higher but softer. I think it would rather help your wake then mess with it.
When chaning prop keep in mind that you should use a prop that at WOT keeps your enigne within recommended max rpm range. If the engine says 4500 to 5500 it is just as bad getting a prop that only revs 4000 at WOT that it is to get a prop that revs 6000. I would rather get a prop that revs more than recommended max than less, unless you have a EFI engine. More revs will require more oil and cause more wear on the engine, but lower revs will more likly cause detonation. Since the steel-wire going from the throttle controls both timing of the fuse-sparks and amount of fuel/air if you rev 4000 at max rpm the engine will time the fuse-sparks as if you where turning 4500-5500 rpm. The timing will be off and that may cause detonation. On EFI's it's another story though...

Just don't mess with your prop if you don't know what you are doing...

Mike

thekpan · Outlaw Joined: 11 Jun 2006 Posts: 168 City: Dallas

were not gettina prop its a hydrofoil thing lol

boarder_boy · Outlaw Joined: 15 Jul 2006 Posts: 210 City: Morgan hill

from what i heard it really helps your wake.

MinnesotaBoarder · Outlaw Joined: 24 Aug 2006 Posts: 139

Ya i dont think it would make that much of a difference and a different prop would probably help to.

thekpan · Outlaw Joined: 11 Jun 2006 Posts: 168 City: Dallas

we have a dual prop...we dont need a new prop...lol... my dad wants this thing to plane faster a new prop has nothing to do with anything out boat is a 2006 chapparel

jjaszkow · Posted: Sep 04, 2006 6:58 pm Post subject:

I'd suggest a prop with a more agressive pitch rather than one of these foils. I personally don't have one on my I/O, but I have heard several people on our lake say that it affects the way the boat handles when turning. The prop will give you more hole shot (while reducing top speed), but will not affect handling or wake.

thekpan · Outlaw Joined: 11 Jun 2006 Posts: 168 City: Dallas

never mind then

burntorange77 · Soul Rider Joined: 31 Jan 2006 Posts: 321 City: Kingwood

I had one on my outboard and when I removed it didn't really change anything.

bmartin · Addict Joined: 05 Feb 2003 Posts: 794

I think the foils help. I have found that they keep your boat from porposing which allows you to use more trim when at wakeboard speeds which can make the wake cleaner. One thing it will do is slow your top end speeds by 1 to 4MPH which isn't something to worry about for wakeboarding.

They are cheap, pretty easy to take on and off and think it would be well worth it to put one on and if you do not like it you can take it off.

biglouie · Outlaw Joined: 02 Aug 2006 Posts: 135

If you do get one, make sure and put it on "exactly" centered. If not, I've read it will throw your steering/handling off quite a bit!

thekpan · Outlaw Joined: 11 Jun 2006 Posts: 168 City: Dallas

okay thanks for the help for the people that talked about the hydrofoil..thanks to the people who talked about props?

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ballywho · Wakeboarder.Commie Joined: 05 Feb 2005 Posts: 1725

Just putting a SS prop on it would do the same thing as the hydrofoil with screwing with your top speed... that's not true, it'd help your top speed. And your hole shot. The aluminum props flex at speed.

Anyway, I don't think they do much of anything on bigger boats, but on little dinghy inflatables they tend to help porposing and they can stabilise at speed.
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Gatorboarder · Newbie Joined: 03 Jul 2006 Posts: 17 City: Spokane

we put one on our sea ray and hydro swift and it definatley helped plane out faster and didnt mess with speed at all. it also helped it to not cavitate while turning at higher speeds

kevthayer · Outlaw Joined: 12 Sep 2005 Posts: 231 City: Benicia

I have a hydrofoil and it helped the wake when you trim up around a 1/4. Nice Shape and knee breaking firm!

thekpan · Outlaw Joined: 11 Jun 2006 Posts: 168 City: Dallas

yeah we throw the trim up around 1/4 now and its okay i need more weight but my dad just threw down like 45k on boat board tube everything so hes not feeling it but next season he promised me fat sacs and perfect pass so untill then i guess well try out the hydrofoil he wants that casue it planes faster and pusehs the front down so it make make a lil better weight or not make the one of four people wit in the front while we board...lol... and thier cheap... thanks

burntorange77 · Soul Rider Joined: 31 Jan 2006 Posts: 321 City: Kingwood

sroemmich · Criminal Joined: 14 May 2003 Posts: 80 City: PORTLAND

There was a hydro foil on the boat that I use and we decided to take it off one day. It definatley made the wake better when we took it off. There was a noticeable difference getting on plane (it takes much longer now to get on plane). The thing that has helped the wake the most is making sure you are putting enough weight in the front of the boat.