i need help with toeside wake to wake jump, and hs backroll

jakenj

everytime i go to do a toeside wtw jump its like the wake always trips me and i lose total control while i am in the air what do i need to do?

also, will it help me if i only swing out only about 10ft to do a heelside backroll or swing out about 30ft like i have been doing(which i have been trying them like this all summer and have only landed 3 of them).

any help appreciatted...

Epic · Addict Joined: 21 Aug 2005 Posts: 765

When jumping toeside you HAVE to make sure you have the handle tucked in tight to your waist. You'll be surprised how much more pop you'll get. Overaggerate it because I can almost guarantee if you think you have in it close enough, you don't.

mwhit · Criminal Joined: 15 Aug 2006 Posts: 98

hey good job for landing the backrolls, but really u should be learning the basics first. heelside jumps, toeside jumps, switch heelside and toeside jumps, 180's, halfcabs, grabs, etc. so anyways on toeside jumps do what EPIC said keep the handle in and know u take off on ur toes and land on ur toes.

jakenj · Posted: Aug 30, 2006 6:28 pm Post subject:

okay thanks

Oasis137 · Addict Joined: 21 Aug 2005 Posts: 687 City: J-Town

On backrolls you want to go slightly out farther than you would need to to go w2w.

J_DOGG · Posted: Aug 31, 2006 10:19 am Post subject:

On TS it sounds like you are folding over at the hips....
Most people do this when learning TS.

Start in closer and stand tall leaning against the rope not the boat.

Justin 25 · Addict Joined: 29 Aug 2006 Posts: 797

Make sure you use your progressive edge, and never flatten out your board. That's for the ts w2w.

jakenj · Posted: Aug 31, 2006 6:50 pm Post subject:

okay thanks i want to try and go out 2 or 3 times this weekend and maybe i can get them down

mwhit · Criminal Joined: 15 Aug 2006 Posts: 98

tell us how it goes, ok?

Natman · Addict Joined: 13 Jan 2006 Posts: 873 City: Eddy TOWN

uh heres what helped me learn ts, i had the same problem. Id just edge harder and hold the handle in tighter. ITs really simple, but overdue your edging.

jakenj · Posted: Sep 02, 2006 9:04 am Post subject:

well i went out today and i got my toeside w2w down, and i landed 1 out of 2 heelside w2w 180's and about 4 out of 4 switched heelside w2w 180's so i did pretty good. then i tried two tantrums and the first one i started the flip way to soon and got no air but almost full rotation and the second time i got huge air but flipped way to late and got no rotation hardly and smacked my head real good

i will go out later today though, so any more tips would be nice

mwhit · Criminal Joined: 15 Aug 2006 Posts: 98

yea usually switch 180s r goin to be easier than regular 180s cause u land regular. the tantrum is something im not good at because i throw it way to early. anyways WAIT for the pop then throw it.

jakenj · Posted: Sep 02, 2006 3:25 pm Post subject:

okay i will remeber that next time, i looked at a pic. of a guy doing a backroll and he gets so much higher than me, but when i do it (again i have landed it like 3 out of 50 times) i never get the chance to look at the water as i come out of the roll so i cant adjust the roll or nuthin what do i need to do to get higher, would a better board help a lot more or what?