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FROMWITHIN Criminal

Joined: 11 Jul 2006 Posts: 54 City: Oshawa, Ontario
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Posted: Aug 22, 2006 6:57 pm Post subject: Sea-doo Sportster SCIC??? |
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Im lookin at getting a new boat for next summer, i've checked out the wakeboard boats,(Malibu,Moomba,Tige...) all are way out of my price range. I was wondering if anyone has wakeboarded behind the sea-doo Sportster SCIC?? I was thinking about getting this boat because its about half to one third the price of the regular wakeboard boats, its has 215hp, they look like they kinda handle like a regular sea-doo (which i think would be fun to drive) and they come with an optional wakeboard tower!
I just wasn't sure if the wake would be a whole lot different because of the jet propelled...Anyways, if anyone has had any experience behind this boat please let me know what you thought!!
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keerf Newbie

Joined: 01 Aug 2006 Posts: 34
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Posted: Aug 22, 2006 7:16 pm Post subject: |
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I saw one out at the lake I go to, presonally, I don't think that a sea-doo anything will produce any type of decent wake. The one I saw had a tiny little wake. Jet driven boats handle like a sea-doo, correct. How much fun is a sea doo to drive? (for more than 2-3 hours) they're a single purpose built craft and don't hande as well as I like. If I were you I would look through some classifieds for an old boat, you may be able to find a good deal on a nice boat if you look through used boats. _________________ I'm new to wakeboarding I have:
1990 Bayliner Capri V6 4.3 Liter
2002 O Brien swindle |
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buckthis Wakeboarder.Commie

Joined: 22 Jan 2003 Posts: 1058 City: Orlando
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Posted: Aug 22, 2006 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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i saw a jet ski with a tower once, don't believe anything the salesmen say to sell a jet boat for a wakeboarding boat! they don't know anything, they are just trying to sell a boat, the tower means nothing. also, with the gas that the seadoo will suck up, you would be able to pay for the diference _________________ Live to Ride, ride to live |
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Impsux Newbie

Joined: 05 Jul 2006 Posts: 14
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Posted: Aug 22, 2006 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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Me and my brother wakeboard behind an 06 Yamaha SX210(jet boat). The wake from it is is more than acceptable. They also have a model that includes a tower(AR210). Our SX210 does not have a tower, rather a fairly low ski hook. The AR210 is basically an SX210 with a tower and different grafics. The last time I looked the 07' AR210 was a little over $30,000, for a few grand more you can get the AR230 HO(High Output).
I do not know what kind of money you are willing to put out on a boat, but AR210/230HO will get the job done. |
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Lop Wakeboarder.com Freak


Joined: 16 Aug 2005 Posts: 4019 City: St Louis MO
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Posted: Aug 22, 2006 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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Don't waste your time. From experience, the wake sucks. It's brutal, but it's still the truth. you can spend half the cash on an older direct drive and have a much better wake. Jet boats are typically underpowered, have a spray and the wake is small, washy and inconsistant. And this is my opinion of the utopia 185 which is a better boat than the speedster.
http://forums.wakeboarder.com/viewtopic.php?t=59716
http://forums.wakeboarder.com/viewtopic.php?t=61123 _________________
| RampageWake wrote: | | Wakeboardrumma wrote: | | have good clean honest fun without alcohol. |
After you do that, help me find me leprechaun.....  |
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Foote Outlaw

Joined: 23 May 2005 Posts: 190 City: Richmond
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Posted: Aug 23, 2006 7:53 am Post subject: |
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| You can find a ton of used Direct Drives for a decent price I suggest looking for one them at least and if you still can't afford a Direct Drive next best thing is a I/O. As far as jet boat wakes go it just sucks plain and simple I have road behind my friends Jet boat similar to what your talking about and the wake from it is only about the half the size of my direct drive with no ballast and its soft as hell too stay as far away from jet boats as possible. |
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blaster30 Newbie

Joined: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 33 City: Vero Beach
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Posted: Aug 23, 2006 8:12 am Post subject: |
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I just bought a new Bayliner 175 XT (XT has the wakeboard tower). I am very happy with it. I am all about bang for the buck. Out the door with tax, tag, title, I paid $14.
Don't mind the date. This was taken 3 weeks ago.
Now I boat mostly in the river and ocean in Florida, a direct drive is not ideal for the river. But I would stay away from the sea-doo.
Good luck.. |
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Road Head Criminal

Joined: 03 Jul 2006 Posts: 70 City: Nashville
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Posted: Aug 23, 2006 11:19 am Post subject: |
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If its what you can afford to get you out on the water, then so be it. I have a 21' 1994 Chaparral I/O with the 5.7L merc in it. Its a great boat - it runs and it floats, and it looks pretty good too. Im not a pro, nor will I ever be - water sports are purely recreational. The wake is good enough for me to bust my rear on attempting tricks. Its fun, I love being out on the lake for $10k - for what I do, I couldnt even begin to justify spending more on a boat - I just put that extra $$ into remodeling my house. However, if I ever win the lottery.....  |
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boobybunny Guest
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Posted: Aug 23, 2006 12:15 pm Post subject: |
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I can say this, last summer I surprised my husband with a boat purchase. I spent 29K on a NEW Centurion T 5.
His response
If I had spent 75K on a Nautique, he would be upset, but he would deal with it... take away my masterbation privledges, my credit cards and the like.
If I had spent 10K on a Reinell (or a seadoo for that matter) We would be in divorce court.
Does that answer any of your questions???? |
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FROMWITHIN Criminal

Joined: 11 Jul 2006 Posts: 54 City: Oshawa, Ontario
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Posted: Aug 23, 2006 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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HA HA....WOW!!! I see everyones is so "pro" with jet boats!! lol
Well I like the honesty from everyone, i guess the sea-doo boat is out of the question as i really enjoy my wakeboarding too much to compromise it for the fun of the boat!
But again I live in Canada so I have a real hard time justifying spending anymore than 20k, as i only get to use it for half a year.
But i suppose 20k can get me a pretty decent used boat....But I really want a Brand New Boat!! lol
Thanks again people!! |
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Lop Wakeboarder.com Freak


Joined: 16 Aug 2005 Posts: 4019 City: St Louis MO
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Posted: Aug 23, 2006 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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go I/O then. get a prop and stay away from the jet _________________
| RampageWake wrote: | | Wakeboardrumma wrote: | | have good clean honest fun without alcohol. |
After you do that, help me find me leprechaun.....  |
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Smokingun Newbie

Joined: 23 Aug 2006 Posts: 5
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Posted: Aug 23, 2006 10:18 pm Post subject: |
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| look for used low hr boats. they are out there well atleast in the south |
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WakeBoarder44 Wakeboarder.Commie


Joined: 21 Apr 2004 Posts: 1107
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Posted: Aug 24, 2006 2:56 am Post subject: |
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| boobybunny wrote: | I can say this, last summer I surprised my husband with a boat purchase. I spent 29K on a NEW Centurion T 5.
His response
If I had spent 75K on a Nautique, he would be upset, but he would deal with it... take away my masterbation privledges, my credit cards and the like.
If I had spent 10K on a Reinell (or a seadoo for that matter) We would be in divorce court.
Does that answer any of your questions???? |
guess the message is clear... you know him well! _________________ * riding finless teaches you to get your edge down properly, when you do it with fins, you'll be able to cut like OJ Simpson
* Hesitation leads to pain! |
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blaster30 Newbie

Joined: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 33 City: Vero Beach
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Posted: Aug 24, 2006 5:47 am Post subject: |
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Wow.. How hot is boobybunny!!  |
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Stutch Newbie

Joined: 24 Aug 2006 Posts: 2 City: Barrhead
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Posted: Aug 24, 2006 2:18 pm Post subject: Seadoo Sportster SCIC |
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I usually only read these forums but since I own a Sportster SCIC I suppose I can give my humble opinion.
FROMWITHIN : I know where you are coming from as I live in Northern Alberta and our season is kinda short. I did not want to spend huge money for a boat also and purchased the Seadoo Sportster SCIC. The boat is a fun little boat, handles like it's on rails, and has tons of power to pull any size water skier or wakeboarder. The key word is little though. I have to use the pop products wieght bags because fat sacs leave no room in the boat. 2 to 4 bags in the engine compartment, 4 to 6 bags in front of the seats (and yes we are overloading the boat a little sometimes) and the wake is not too bad. Some of the guys can do W2W or W2Flats consistantly (my technique needs work though) but we also only use a 40 to 45 foot rope to get at the "good part of the wake" so the W2W might not be very far comparison wise to a wakeboard boat. We really only do rotation tricks though and you may not get enough air for inverts etc. Mind you I am 40 and some what new to the sport. I think the boat suffices for me and the crew, however I do have to agree with the other posts in that the wake is sometimes soft and not perfect or really big. You can have a lot of fun with it but if you really want the big air, inverts, raleys, etc you should really look to a used wakeboarding boat. I wanted new though and I really do love my Sportster SCIC.
Hope this helps. |
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LakeIolaLuke Wakeboarder.com Freak


Joined: 10 Jul 2006 Posts: 3064 City: Lake Iola/Orlando
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Posted: Aug 25, 2006 4:13 am Post subject: |
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with the reliability problems of all sea-doo products, I would get a real boat. You can get brand new moomba's or Malibu v-rides for under 40 grand, and I'm sure you could find a lightly used one of either for a similar price to the sea-doo. _________________
| buckthis wrote: | | And another reason wakeboarding is better than surfing, you die less, that means you have another day to wakeboard, which is more fun than surfing anyway. |
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Stutch Newbie

Joined: 24 Aug 2006 Posts: 2 City: Barrhead
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Posted: Aug 25, 2006 10:46 am Post subject: |
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I know that jet boats are not "ideal" for wakeboarding so flame my boat if you want, I don't really care. HOWEVER
LakIolaLuke : No offence LakeIolaLuke, but in all fairness I have been running seadoo / skidoo products for longer than you have been on this Earth and have not had any reliablity problems. Nothing that is any different than anything else you could buy. Rotax engines are among the best in the recreational industry as evidenced by the hard core Polaris guys I see and know who put Rotax power plants in their custom built mountain sleds. Why? Because they are reliable and have the power and torque. |
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ripperchick Outlaw


Joined: 16 May 2006 Posts: 158 City: Atlanta
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Posted: Aug 25, 2006 11:52 am Post subject: |
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| I've ridden behind a sea doo jet boat and it was not fun. they produce a wake barely bigger than that of a large jetski and it's really mushy so you don't get much air, no matter how hard you edge. If youre learning new tricks or something this is not a good boat to try them behind. They are also really hard to control and drive. They have jets just like jetskis, so the steering is the same. Aren't moombas pretty inexpensive wakeboard boats compared to centurion, malibu and mastercraft? |
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davros Newbie

Joined: 12 Jun 2006 Posts: 4
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Posted: Aug 27, 2006 12:36 am Post subject: |
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Hi,
I'm afraid to say that the Seadoo's are not much good for wakeboarding behind. I started with a sportster, then bought the 2006 Speedster. The wake is very crumbly and as the jet nozzle (s) steer the boat, any slight deviation from exactly straight throws the wake all over. Fat Sac's helped, but again, the wake is very unpredicatble.
I looked into the Speedster Wake, but then why bother when a few $$$ more gets you a Malibu Xti.
Sorry but my advice is to look for an '03 Malibu Xti or VLX (depending on budget) and avoid the jet boats. |
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