backroll video

mwhit · Criminal Joined: 15 Aug 2006 Posts: 98

My friend got these videos from the other day to put on here. My backrolls are either to slow and high or fast and really low any advice will be great ill put videos on here to show my range of problems.

http://s53.photobucket.com/albums/g71/thekpan/?action=view&current=100_0419.flv
http://s53.photobucket.com/albums/g71/thekpan/?action=view&current=100_0417.flv
http://s53.photobucket.com/albums/g71/thekpan/?action=view&current=100_0413.flv
http://s53.photobucket.com/albums/g71/thekpan/?action=view&current=100_0415.flv

any advice will help me alot please help thanks kpan for getting the videos

peace

WtSteve · Outlaw Joined: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 112 City: Atlanta

Looks to me like you arnt popping enough, just kinda throwin it as hard as you can which is why you don't have enough time to rotate before you slap the water. Stand/pop a little more perhaps. Nice tries though, are these your first attempts?

jkeubanks · Outlaw Joined: 02 Sep 2004 Posts: 104 City: Dallas

You are throwing the trick way too early. Think about edging up the wake and then AT THE TOP OF THE WAKE throw your board up and away from the boat and look over your left shoulder. Good luck!

jpminter · Posted: Aug 21, 2006 2:01 pm Post subject:

Yeah, your approach should be the same as any "big air" trick up until you have popped. Wait for the pop, then throw it as hard as you want to.

mwhit · Criminal Joined: 15 Aug 2006 Posts: 98

WtSteve, thanks but no these arent my first attempts. although they did look like my 7th and more attempts. Ive hadnt improved much after my 7th, been doing the same thing. Sad

And I do try to wait and get the pop but everytime i do that my rotation is slow. so what should i do there?

wtbamoomba · Addict Joined: 10 Sep 2003 Posts: 808 City: raleigh

shorten your Bubb Rubbing rope, and pop, then spin

Epic · Addict Joined: 21 Aug 2005 Posts: 765

barbarebc · Newbie Joined: 21 Aug 2006 Posts: 17 City: Raleigh

I'm not trying to be a smart ass but it helps to clear the wake. When I was learning back rolls I took the biggest hardest cut I could take and land out in the flats. The landing is rougher but it gives you plenty of time for the spin and to spot your landing

barbarebc · Newbie Joined: 21 Aug 2006 Posts: 17 City: Raleigh

also you're extending your legs way to late, you're hitting the wake with you're legs still bent at almost a 90 degree angle, which is giving you no pop and no spin. If you jump normal the wake will pretty much start the rotation for you.

poulpy · Newbie Joined: 20 Oct 2005 Posts: 21

You do more a tantrum approach (flatening at the wake) because you edge very hard and then cannot hold this edge through the wake
take a shorter approach and cut very hard just at the end, this gives more pop and more rotation but less speed and therefore less pain

J_DOGG · Posted: Aug 22, 2006 4:06 am Post subject:

OK, they are all being nice to you so I will not....

IMO - you don't have the skills to even be tryn the trick.. I can tell just by the way you cut out away from the wake.
Why is the handle all up near your face and why do you insist on cutting out so far and hard for a HS Backroll.

You should be out about 10 feet or half the distance you normally go out for a hs W2W jump, nothing more.

And YES, you are leaving super early and not standing tall.

Stop squatting down on your approach, do that for spins and stuff but for inverts it's better to take style out of the equation and approach the wake using proper form so you leave the wake in proper form. You don't want to be making all sorts of adjustments at the wake, leave that for the Pro's.

mwhit · Criminal Joined: 15 Aug 2006 Posts: 98

yea i know i really flatten out really before i hit the wake so i dont get the the nesscessary rotation and pop. JDOGG, yea i dont know what the hell i was thinking, usually i dont go WAY out there and hold the rope up to my chin. i did that cause i thought if i got the speed, it could help me with the rotation. and the rope thing,.....was just wierd.

mwhit · Criminal Joined: 15 Aug 2006 Posts: 98

so is that it?

WtSteve · Outlaw Joined: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 112 City: Atlanta

I guess for now it is, go make another video and post it up. To sum up everyones comments, just remember to standtall/pop and don't flatten off your cut at the end.
Good luck!

hyperlite58 · Outlaw Joined: 15 Mar 2006 Posts: 228

i would try shortening ur rope up because u are no where near clearing the wake and if u can clear the wake it will be easier to land the trick

jake the great · Newbie Joined: 10 Jun 2006 Posts: 34 City: draper

i've tried about 40 backrolls and i haven't landed any. does it take everyone else this long to land it?

jake the great · Newbie Joined: 10 Jun 2006 Posts: 34 City: draper

but i have gotten close on about 5 of those

phunkjive · Newbie Joined: 24 Aug 2006 Posts: 4

the pop on the back roll is a little tricky at first...I landed my 3rd attempt but my first few landings weren't very high also...something that helped me was to not hit the wake so hard, but to speed up the boat and focus on slowing the rotation down.

mattmac115 · Criminal Joined: 23 Jun 2006 Posts: 70

think about this

Jump first, roll later

Wakebrad · Ladies Man Joined: 11 Dec 2003 Posts: 12257 City: Dallas

jake the great · Newbie Joined: 10 Jun 2006 Posts: 34 City: draper

i get enough pop for it i just slip out every time

TDott04 · Newbie Joined: 28 Aug 2006 Posts: 2

if you get enough pop you shouldnt be sliding out because you should be able to finish the rotation before you hit the water
thus not giving you that hit and slide feeling