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sooner26 Newbie

Joined: 11 Jul 2006 Posts: 21
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Posted: Aug 08, 2006 5:08 am Post subject: advice for newbs from a newb |
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| Take the fins off. I ride a hl 140 cruiser. I took the fins off this weekend for the first time and will probably never put them back on. Yeah I'll admit the ride is loose and I will have to get better with my edging tech but the ride seemed so much smoother/easier. Surface tricks are super easy now. The only way I can explain it is before it seemed like I was in the water fighting it now it feels like I'm on top of the water gliding. You all should at least give it a try.[/b] |
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HHI Dave Wakeboarder.com Freak


Joined: 10 Jun 2006 Posts: 2550 City: Hilton Head Island, SC
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SlowRyder Newbie

Joined: 28 Jul 2006 Posts: 20 City: Charlotte
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Posted: Aug 08, 2006 1:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Would you suggest this to a very inexperienced rider? I am still learning to edge correctly and have not learned to ride switch yet or do anything fancy.......... |
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timmyDecker Outlaw


Joined: 22 May 2006 Posts: 187 City: Manhattan...KS
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Posted: Aug 08, 2006 1:37 pm Post subject: |
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As long as you can get up, it's worth riding without your fins just to see whether you like it or not. The very first time you might not like it just because it's not what you're used to, but give it a few rides and see. As far as edging, taking the fins off forces you to edge better. With fins on you can turn without necessarily having good edging technique. Without fins, the only way to turn is to edge properly. _________________ Whoever coined the term "Near Beer" was a very poor judge of distance... |
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Lady Ortunas Outlaw


Joined: 09 Jul 2006 Posts: 109
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Posted: Aug 08, 2006 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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I recently did this very same thing with the same board (HP Cruiser). While I have noticed less pop off of the wake, I definitely enjoy being able to ride switch and do some more surface types of tricks. I sort of want to try and put the fins back on, but I'm having so much fun with them off I might not for awhile.  _________________ My other water preference is "frozen". |
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sooner26 Newbie

Joined: 11 Jul 2006 Posts: 21
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Posted: Aug 09, 2006 7:02 am Post subject: |
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| Sure slowryder. The loose feel will make you a little weary but you will be riding switch in no time. |
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motobill Newbie

Joined: 06 Jul 2006 Posts: 26
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Posted: Aug 09, 2006 11:29 am Post subject: |
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Sounds like I took the wuss approach by buying smaller fins. I thought I'd step down to no fins rather than going from 1.7" to nothing.
Oh well, I'll try it my way. |
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HHI Dave Wakeboarder.com Freak


Joined: 10 Jun 2006 Posts: 2550 City: Hilton Head Island, SC
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Posted: Aug 09, 2006 11:50 am Post subject: |
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| motobill wrote: | Sounds like I took the wuss approach by buying smaller fins. I thought I'd step down to no fins rather than going from 1.7" to nothing.
Oh well, I'll try it my way. |
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Rhawn Wakeboarder.com Freak


Joined: 14 Jun 2006 Posts: 3127 City: Richmond, V to the Izzay
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Posted: Aug 09, 2006 12:40 pm Post subject: |
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I went finless recently to, and there is no way I would go back. 133 Fish. _________________ WakeSurf and Wakesurfing News |
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SlowRyder Newbie

Joined: 28 Jul 2006 Posts: 20 City: Charlotte
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Posted: Aug 09, 2006 12:51 pm Post subject: |
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| ok, you guys got me wanting to take the fins off now.....I have a Hyperlite Era 147 with 1.3" fins on it now. Do you think it will be a big difference? Is the difference mainly when you are riding straight or when you are edging out as well? |
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wakehopper Criminal

Joined: 02 Jun 2006 Posts: 66 City: louisville
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Posted: Aug 09, 2006 1:33 pm Post subject: |
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I took the fins off my state 140 and I will never put them back on, for two reasons #1 it is great without them. #2 I dropped one of them in the water when I was taking them off . I think this has helped me alot I edge better than I used to, My landings seem alot softer because the board is not as locked in when I land, and it is fun to be able to break the board loose so easy. |
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heroldmike Criminal

Joined: 08 Aug 2006 Posts: 68 City: toronto
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Posted: Aug 09, 2006 5:06 pm Post subject: |
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| wats the advantage to taking them off. for me i wouldnt see a point because i can easily 180 and stuf on water with them on, wat would be the real advantage just making that even easier or does it server mor purpose |
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Rhawn Wakeboarder.com Freak


Joined: 14 Jun 2006 Posts: 3127 City: Richmond, V to the Izzay
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Posted: Aug 09, 2006 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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The main advantage, so I read, is it teaches you how to edge properly and ride better. Fins can be a crutch. I notice smoother landings, not going over the front as much, 1000x easier surface tricks, and more fun overall. _________________ WakeSurf and Wakesurfing News |
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sooner26 Newbie

Joined: 11 Jul 2006 Posts: 21
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Posted: Aug 10, 2006 9:20 am Post subject: |
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| slowryder its a huge difference however your riding. to me it makes it alot harder to catch an edge and faceplant. i didn't have to fight to stay up. before i took the fin off i could butterslide maybe about 15 to 20 feet before i would catch and edge or move out of it fearing i would catch an edge. the first run w/out fins, i could have butterslided the whole lake. not sure what its call maybe a backwards butterslide, but i held the handle behind my back and was facing away from the boat and it was easy. to me takeing the fins off allow alot more room for error without having the wicked faceplants. |
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sooner26 Newbie

Joined: 11 Jul 2006 Posts: 21
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Posted: Aug 10, 2006 9:21 am Post subject: |
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| going out today after work. let you know how the surface 360 attemps go. |
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nick@night Criminal

Joined: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 87 City: Greensboro, NC
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Posted: Aug 11, 2006 8:19 am Post subject: |
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| I never had fins on my 137 06' PS3 although I got the best of both worlds because it has little built-in fins so it rides smooth and has control, my edge has improved alot too. |
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wtbamoomba Addict

Joined: 10 Sep 2003 Posts: 808 City: raleigh
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Posted: Aug 11, 2006 8:30 am Post subject: |
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| nick@night wrote: | | I never had fins on my 137 06' PS3 although I got the best of both worlds because it has little built-in fins so it rides smooth and has control, my edge has improved alot too. |
yeah all one time that you rode alexs board  _________________ finally got my boat!!!
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nick@night Criminal

Joined: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 87 City: Greensboro, NC
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Posted: Aug 11, 2006 8:41 am Post subject: |
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| wtbamoomba wrote: | | nick@night wrote: | | I never had fins on my 137 06' PS3 although I got the best of both worlds because it has little built-in fins so it rides smooth and has control, my edge has improved alot too. |
yeah all one time that you rode alexs board  |
it's my board now biotch |
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ShAkAjAcK Outlaw


Joined: 19 Feb 2006 Posts: 154 City: Lexington
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Posted: Aug 11, 2006 8:46 am Post subject: |
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| been riding without fins now for a year and i love it |
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stuzzy07 Newbie

Joined: 10 Oct 2006 Posts: 13 City: Pembroke Pines
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Posted: Oct 18, 2006 2:36 pm Post subject: |
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| I have a LF 06' Substance and i just took the fins off. The ride is A LOT more smooth, i can spin on the wake without catching an edge and eating it. I have a lot more movement and my edge is actually easier without the fins on. I do have molded side fins, so i don't plan on putting my fins back on. |
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edrex Guest
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Posted: Oct 19, 2006 9:41 am Post subject: |
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My board has some channels on the bottom but no molded fins. I'll be going riding in the next couple days for what may be my last day of the season, should I try finless, or is it only good for boards that have some sort of molded fin? I don't want to waste too much time on my last day.
Thanks. |
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ccameselle Criminal


Joined: 20 Sep 2005 Posts: 63 City: Miami
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Posted: Oct 19, 2006 9:44 am Post subject: |
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I had a HL 142 and took the fins off. It was super loose but easier to do surface tricks. Then got a new boar a Free motion 142 and that one has the molded fins on it so I took the center one off. I love riding finless. After the first couple of rides you get used to it and it help you with the edging thing.
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ccameselle Criminal


Joined: 20 Sep 2005 Posts: 63 City: Miami
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Posted: Oct 19, 2006 9:52 am Post subject: |
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I had a HL 142 and took the fins off. It was super loose but easier to do surface tricks. Then got a new boar a Free motion 142 and that one has the molded fins on it so I took the center one off. I love riding finless. After the first couple of rides you get used to it and it help you with the edging thing.
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Nemesis7384 Criminal

Joined: 09 Apr 2006 Posts: 68
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Posted: Oct 21, 2006 7:47 am Post subject: |
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| personal preferance. depends what youre doing. |
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edrex Guest
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Posted: Oct 21, 2006 2:10 pm Post subject: |
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I tried finless today. I can see where your edging will drastically improve, but I need to get better with the fins before I attempt it again. It was way to loose. Oh well, now to wait until spring.  |
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c-boy Outlaw


Joined: 15 May 2006 Posts: 233 City: Brampton, Ontario
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Posted: Oct 21, 2006 2:39 pm Post subject: |
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| I use both now cuz i split the cost of everything with ma bud and he can't ride fins but it makes all of your tricks easier if you go finlees to fins cuz, once you can do spins,butterslides,powerslides, etc. without them then when you put them back on its super easy |
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j_jaquette Newbie

Joined: 06 Jan 2007 Posts: 7
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Posted: Jan 13, 2007 12:52 am Post subject: |
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| so if u take fins off it would be easier to do like surface 180's and 360's cause im planning on doing surface tricks this season |
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c-boy Outlaw


Joined: 15 May 2006 Posts: 233 City: Brampton, Ontario
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Posted: Jan 14, 2007 2:07 pm Post subject: |
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| true... |
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OuachitaWaker Addict

Joined: 16 Sep 2006 Posts: 577 City: Hot Springs
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Posted: Mar 06, 2007 4:20 pm Post subject: |
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| you should not take your fins off to do surface tricks. I can do surface 360's all day long with fins on my board. starting frontside or backside doesnt matter. |
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