NO POWER TURNS

[Tripin-38]

I haven't read anything on here about power turns this season - so i'm stepping up and spreading the word

DON"T DO POWER TURNS!!!!!!!!!!!!! It messes up the water and makes you look like an a$$

[Kewlboarder27r]

ok cheif

WTF

[Commodore]

Kewlboarder27r,

Umm WTF seconded.

[Wakebrad]

Power Turn
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When the rider falls and you turn the boat 180 degrees at speed it sends rollers everywhere effectively messing up your water and all of the other boats around you.

Save the water and save gas
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When your rider falls take off the gas and wait until your boat is off plane to turn then idle back to the rider. This dissipates the waves and keeps the line clean of rollers.

preach on brotha

[K-dub]

Tripin-38, you must not come around too often.

There was a thread on Pwer Turns a few weeks ago.

[Commodore]

Wakebrad, oh I know what it is. But his post was just kinda.......odd. And yeah this has been hit on, alot.

[Dave88LX]

I was SO mad yesterday. Some old lady was driving trying to get her old husband up one one ski. I don't think he ever made it out of the water, but she was literally doing a power-turn per minute, I almost wanted to go say something to her, maybe she didn't know any better. It wouldn't be such a big deal if it was out in the big "open" part of the water, but this area is like the one nice smooth non-wake-getting roller-free zone, and we'd like to keep it that way. Granted, everyone has the right to use all the water, but, if you're going to be rude, go do it with the rest of the waves.

Same with the damn tubers doing donuts in the little cove.

[Ride DH]

yea there's hardly any other boats on the water and i like to mess with my friends, plus i hate sitting in the water it takes too long, me and my friends don't even stop moving when we're picking someone up after a fall, then just grab on and feel a slight jerk hahaha,it takes about 5 seconds to get out of the rollers after you get up, so if my friend can't deal with it then maybe he should suck it up and get better at waking

[Ride DH]

granted we're basically the only riders on the river

[K-dub]

Ride DH, you won't think it's too funny when you guys accidentally run one of your friends over while driving like that.

[Mariner]

I had to do some power turns yesterday to go back and protect my fallen riders. Caney Creek was busy as crap yesterday and I didn't want Bud Light + bass boat = mangled wakeboarder.

[Wakebrad]

haugy, your post wasn't actually there when I replied. He is trying to prevent power turning but didn't even tell people what it was. Chances are if someone knows what the term power turning means they know not to do it.

Seems like more than half of the wakeboats out there still do it so the word still needs to get out.

Ride DH, way to screw up your own water. The only acceptable time to powerturn is in mariner's situation where you're trying to protect your rider.

[b_girl]

[Dave88LX]

yeah b_girl, that's what pissed me off. The whole open-area of the lake was nice and choppy already with the 18-20 mph winds, go out there and do donuts!

[b_girl]

yeah for sure! open choppy areas are the best for tubing. not that i'm one to hog the lake or anything. fair enough if it's not busy at all and you wanna go tubing for a while... but after the water skiiers and wakeboarders, etc come out, i think it's 'good form' for them to stop zig zagging so much. it's real hard to try to drive a boat in a straight line when you've got someone driving all over the place in front of you!

[E.J.]

[rams]

[Dave88LX]

http://www.wakeworld.com/articles/2003/thatboat.asp

[Trainwreck]

I think everyone should worry less about what the fu*k other boaters are doing and worry about yourselves. If I spent half the time pissed off at other boaters the way you guys do I'd never want to go out.

Power turns, tubers, skiers, surfers, 100 MPH Bajas...its all part of being on the water. Get over it. If you're the only boat on the water you aren't going to stay in one small spot all day anyway and the water is gonig to be good. if you are one of 500 boats who gives a stuff, other peoples wakes are worse than the chop of one power turn.

Its all water. We ride all the time in chop. It just makes you more confident. Quit being a sissy.

[E.J.]

[dirtysparks]

I counter your star with a

The second you quit worrying about what others are doing, you put your entire crew at risk.

[E.J.]

[RUSSIAN]

considering that people power turn themselves up onto levees around here, I'd say its a huge risk. I was wakeskating behind a jetski on sat night on the only stretch of decent water, 3 of the 5 other boats were doing power turns all night long. We were in a slough about 40-80 feet wide. not only was it unsafe for us, but also unsafe for the dumba$$'$ doing it.
Dirtysparks nailed it. the second you stop paying attention to other people on the water is the second you find yourself in a bad situation. I'm sure most of you have seen pictures of the delta on the weekend, with boats stacked behind each other, each with a rider in tow. I would put money on it that most of those people have been drinking.

[Darin]

We go out early mornings sometimes. There may be my boat, and perhaps one other tower boat on the water. If we are both cool about it, we wont be jacking up each others water. But if one of us does the dreaded power turn, it's all over across the lake.

[E.J.]

....Whatever.... You guys(Russian & DS) are comparing apples to oranges. Trainwreck was not saying(I am assuming here, but feel pretty confident about the assumption) that people worry too much about what others are doing on the water, power turns, screwing up the water ect.

He was not saying that you shouldn't watch for unsafe drivers or someone in distress for that matter, putting your crew at risk or not being aware if someone else is in need of assistance.

If I read his post correct, he was saying that people seem to be so worried that someone is power turning, tubing, jet skiing whatever and screwing up what could have been beautiful water....then stewing about it enough to come on here and preach to the choir about said issues. In conclusion, stating that if he worried as much about what others were doing(to mess up butter) as it seems that many people on these forums are......he may lose interest in boating all together....

[Dave88LX]

I don't have a problem with tubes, jetskis etc. My problem is when they bring it into the small calm little coves where we can find the only no-chop water...I mean it's a tube, and they're trying to make waves, so get the damn tube out in the middle of the lake where there ARE waves, don't be inconsiderate and go into the calm little cove.

[Trainwreck]

Thank you E.J.

I am by no means saying dont pay attention to the guy coming at you at 70 + in the 35' Outlaw. I'm saying quit worrying about the guy on the jet ski whos day you just made by throwing a ships wake for him to jump. Laugh and give him a thumbs up if no one is back behind the boat. Most of the people riding on the water are decent folks who work hard for their money and are respectable people. I'm sure that no one is out to kill anyone or injure themselves either.

The other night I was out wakesurfing and there was another boat of wakeboarders, one was a chic, who were tearing it up right there along with us surfing. Did they complain? Nope, they were cheering and we were cheering for them when they'd do something cool. Its about the love man.

Another boat that was wakeboarding came over and helped me un-beach my boat off of a little sandbar. <- listened to my friend vs my knowledge. LOL!

My point is, everyone is on the water for one thing, TO HAVE FUN. Dont fu*k up someone's day because they messed with your little piece of mother nature. They spent alot of money to get out there just like you did. I assure you that a little chop isnt stopping any of the pros from busting big. IE double ups. Bend those knees and bust big. Then smile about the fun you're having and turn the radio up.

[Wakebrad]

Trainwreck, look, we're just trying to make the water better for everyone through education. I don't expect tubers or jetskiers to care but wakeboarders and skiers should. We're all looking for good water and some people don't know things they can do to aid. It's just about educating the public who benefits from it.

[Trainwreck]

I think we've all been educated to this point. Every day I get on here there's some more posts about power turns, or someone crying about a fu*king jet skier, or the jerks at the cable park or WAAAAA WAAAAAA WAAAAAAAA.

If you're interetsted in changing the world crying about it on the internet is not the place to start. Especially to a bunch of people who have already heard it a 1000 times.

Nice photo by the way. Made me thirsty.

[Wakebrad]

[Darin]

[Dave88LX]

Slow down, turn left, cut back around right, go pick up the guy in the water...it's easy!

[KduB11]

halelueya dave88LX

[Roos]

A couple of years ago in august (so allmost exactly two years ago) my brother got a new wakeboardingmag. As we went out that weekend on the water to have some fun with a couple of friends of his we also read that magazine. After a while we got to a section where they were teaching people how to drive. They talked about not power turning but instead come off plane before you turn and then turn fully towards the driver and let your own rollers turn the boat around and then idle back to the driver. This way you save gas and don't mess up the water. At the same time they discribed how to turn at the end of your strip to get double ups and go back the same lane you came. Me and my brother had been wakeboarding for about 3 years and we never heard about it before and never figured it out our self either. I would say that he didn't start getting wakeboardingmag I wouldn't have known how to drive today.
There are a big difference between wakeboarders that get the mag's, read the articles and go to the online forums to educate themselvs and between the people who just go out to the lake to have fun. If you see another boat with wakeboarders or skiiers that does in fact powerturn and doesn't go back and forth the same lane just idle up close to them and educate them. I am sure that they will be glad to learn something that both helps them and everyone else out. Posting on this forum with educated wakeboarders won't do that much good, it's a pretty small chance that the wakeboarders in the boat at your lake whom you are angry with will come online here and read this thread. And if you are saying that there is alot of sings, people scream and such about "NO POWERTURNING" that won't help unless the people who are powerturning actually knows what it means and how to do instead.

The other part with the guys tubing and the jetskiiers might also be about education. I mean, I'm sure they aren't there to wreck your day, perhaps they don't know that you want butter. Many people I talk with that have never been wakeboarding that just knows that we are jumping on waves and so on actually thinks that we are greatful when someone else comes along and gives us some more wakes to jump. They don't think about it being harder to get a good edge and stick your landing when the water is choppy. So talk to the tubers and ask them if they can go further away from you or if there is some reason why your part of the lake is better for them aswell. When it comes to the jetskiiers just talk with them and say that if they stay the hell away from you for about 30 mins while you are pulling your riders and then you will get your boat loaded up and weighed down for them and make the biggest waves you possibly can for them to jump and even drive as they want you to drive you will all have a much better time. I mean you can't say that it isn't fun watching them fly in those little crazy machine. I would even offer them a pull at your wakeboard and then go jetskiing som with them, since that is really ****** great!

The last thing you should do is come here and complain about it if you haven't even spoken to them yet. If you have spoken to all these people trying to inform them how to do it and they still does it, sure come here and complain just to get som of that aggrevasion out of your system, but if you haven't explained to them what they are doing and how they should be doing it don't come here complaining. Then I would rather say that it is you who are doing wrong. They are probably doing the best they can to have fun while you are not even trying to make everyone have a better time.
And as was said before, crank that volume up and go out there and have fun together!
It's all about love and respect!

Cheers!
Mike

[DRAGON88]

Psh. Next thing you know people will be telling me to drive in a straight line instead of an "s" pattern. What gives?!