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jpminter Wakeboarder.Commie


Joined: 28 Jun 2005 Posts: 1259 City: Richmond, VA
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Posted: Jun 19, 2006 7:07 am Post subject: Got my 3's dialed. What next? (UPDATED 9/14) |
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I finally got my HS FS 3's dialed. I can land them more often than not. Which spin should I try to work on next?
Here's what I have dialed:
HS FS 360
HS FS 180 (with grab)
TS FS 180 (with grab)
Switch HS FS 180 (with grab, biggest of all my 180's)
Switch TS FS 180 (not w2w, no grab)
Here's what I was considering to learn next:
HS FS 540
HS BS 180
Switch HS FS 360
TS FS 360
My toeside and switch riding are very strong.
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kyle Guest
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Posted: Jun 19, 2006 7:15 am Post subject: |
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| ts fs 5, ts fs 3, and maybe start throwing in some inverts |
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wtbamoomba Addict

Joined: 10 Sep 2003 Posts: 808 City: raleigh
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Posted: Jun 19, 2006 11:00 am Post subject: |
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i was wondering the same thing, no inverts? try for a backroll or tantrum, or if your TS is strong and your switch also as you say the scarecrow is pretty good _________________ finally got my boat!!!
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jpminter Wakeboarder.Commie


Joined: 28 Jun 2005 Posts: 1259 City: Richmond, VA
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Posted: Jun 19, 2006 11:20 am Post subject: |
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| Yeah, I guess I should have specified. I can do backrolls and I am working on crows. I'm only concerned about spins on this thread. |
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bradb Outlaw

Joined: 09 Jan 2004 Posts: 204 City: Parksville
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Posted: Jun 19, 2006 1:13 pm Post subject: |
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Those are all good choises. I'd try them all, and go with what feels best. If I was to put one of them off for a while, it would be the 5. Get the basics down and work on all 8 180s. They are the building blocks of all the larger spins and having a solid foundation will help you progress faster in the long run.
Good luck,
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stompin7s Soul Rider

Joined: 01 May 2003 Posts: 331 City: venice/ tallahassee
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Posted: Jun 19, 2006 1:31 pm Post subject: |
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grab ur hs fs 3 slob _________________ "it is better to fail in originality than to succeed in imitation" |
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LFADAM PityDaFool Who Posts This Much


Joined: 25 Aug 2003 Posts: 5283 City: New York City
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Posted: Jun 19, 2006 3:45 pm Post subject: |
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| ya Id learn a TS 3, grabbed HS 3, and HS BS 180 next. I wouldnt try a 5 until you can spin lots of handle pass stuff without thinking about form. (I tried 5s before I was really solid with my 3s and technique and I ended up losing the 3s) |
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jpminter Wakeboarder.Commie


Joined: 28 Jun 2005 Posts: 1259 City: Richmond, VA
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Posted: Jul 31, 2006 5:59 am Post subject: |
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I tried a few different things and I feel that the TS FS 3 was probably the easiest to learn. I've landed several now. I found them easier if I try to do the handle pass at the last possible second. I have also landed a few switch HS BS 1's. They are more similar to the TS FS 3 than you think. You pass from the same hand to the same hand and you land the exact same way. It also helps to make the handle pass late. I haven't tried grabbing my HS FS 3 yet but I feel like I could easily do it. I am very comfortable with the HS FS 3 now. Whenever I try a HS BS 1, I end up getting thrown off-axis a bit and I land on my butt. I think I am trying to spin too early. I guess I need to pop, get my bearings straight and then pass the handle.
One question: for those of you that can land TS 5's, do you do them any different than TS 3's (besides the obvious extra 180)???? IE, is the takeoff from the wake any different than the 3?? Craig and David, help me out here |
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NorthwestRider Wakeboarder.Commie

Joined: 24 Aug 2004 Posts: 1175 City: Puyallup, WA
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Craig-R Guest
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Posted: Jul 31, 2006 5:25 pm Post subject: |
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| jpminter, david and my advice (collectively): "why would she ah she IS in a relationship wtf weird oh well u lose some and you win some, this is my profile song. " well..david said that while i was typing, but here's some actual advice: just like a ts 3, with a ts 5 you have to wait to gain your balance, more than you think you have to wait, because chances are you will get the rotation every time. we're honored that you thought of us for the question though haha. when you start working on hs 5's let me know because those are my favorite!! and i learned them long before ts 5's |
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jpminter Wakeboarder.Commie


Joined: 28 Jun 2005 Posts: 1259 City: Richmond, VA
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Posted: Aug 01, 2006 4:38 am Post subject: |
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Craig-R, well what would be your advice for the HS 5? I haven't really tried one yet but I usually don't land with my back hand on the handle. I always land with my lead arm extended. Should I just try to get my back hand on the handle before the landing and give it an extra pull for the 180 before the landing? Anything else I need to consider?
I need to make a dank video like you guys. Maybe I'll gather up some footage this week and put something together. |
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LFADAM PityDaFool Who Posts This Much


Joined: 25 Aug 2003 Posts: 5283 City: New York City
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Posted: Aug 01, 2006 5:49 am Post subject: |
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| jpminter, HS 5s are really easy to spin off the double up. I was trying them off the wake and I hucked them so much Id get off axis and not in a good position to land. When I try them off the double up, I just basically throw a 3 but since you have so much time in the air, it just goes to 5 and everything is slower so you can think through it easier while doing it. Its true I havent landed any yet (I usually throw the handle because I think Ill underrotate then landing perfectly) but I think theyre much easier off the double up. |
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Craig-R Guest
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Posted: Aug 01, 2006 8:08 am Post subject: |
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| i never land hs 3's with both hands on the handle, i just started trying 5's by pulling hard once so i would rotate faster and passed the handle to my back hand for the final 180. it took a lot of tries and practice but it eventually worked out for me. i agree with LFADAM to a certain extent because i think that hs 5's are easier to complete the rotation off the doubleup, but not necessarily easier to land and ride away from. i started learning 5's just but messing around and seeing what would happen...that's how i learned the whirlybird too so just go out there and just have fun and try new things for the hell of it |
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Sinkoumn Wakeboarder.Commie


Joined: 26 Jun 2003 Posts: 1706 City: Side Lake, MN - Long Beach, CA
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Posted: Aug 01, 2006 8:48 am Post subject: |
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Grabbed 3's are the 'ish too, especially "el ole' style" when it's grabbed all the way around  _________________ Neuston Boards
Nautiques |
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jpminter Wakeboarder.Commie


Joined: 28 Jun 2005 Posts: 1259 City: Richmond, VA
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Posted: Sep 14, 2006 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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updated again!
i have hs bs 1's dialed. i can even do them wrapped. they're not that cool looking but kind of fun to do anyway. i've been trying hs bs 3's. i get the right amount of rotation down but i always come down really tail heavy which makes the landing tough. the handle pass is no problem but does anyone have any tips on the landing? |
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MinnesotaBoarder Outlaw

Joined: 24 Aug 2006 Posts: 139
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Posted: Sep 23, 2006 6:45 am Post subject: |
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| dude try a tantrum or a backroll. |
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jpminter Wakeboarder.Commie


Joined: 28 Jun 2005 Posts: 1259 City: Richmond, VA
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Posted: Sep 23, 2006 12:01 pm Post subject: |
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dude
| jpminter wrote: | | I can do backrolls and I am working on crows. I'm only concerned about spins on this thread. |
I've also landed some half cab rolls. Thanks for the help though.
Anyone else have anything to add? |
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Craig-R Guest
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Posted: Sep 23, 2006 3:02 pm Post subject: |
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| do you pass the handle at the small of your back or under your butt near your knees? |
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Pacco LF Soul Rider


Joined: 13 Nov 2005 Posts: 399 City: Dallas
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jpminter Wakeboarder.Commie


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Posted: Sep 24, 2006 9:57 am Post subject: |
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Craig-R, I pass at the small of my back. Should I try leaning over a bit and passing it lower?
Pacco LF, are you serious? Read the entire thread. |
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Pacco LF Soul Rider


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jpminter Wakeboarder.Commie


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Posted: Sep 24, 2006 2:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Pacco LF, haha, it's cool. I just thought it was funny that you were the third person to say that. |
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Craig-R Guest
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Posted: Sep 24, 2006 3:53 pm Post subject: |
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| well i used to pass the handle at the small of my back but i couldnt really get them consistent then one day something clicked and know i pass the handle behind my knees under my butt and it has made them a lot more consistent and i feel like i have a lot more control over my rotation |
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