back roll? tantrum? or too early?

makar666 · Newbie Joined: 16 Jul 2006 Posts: 3 City: lake monticello

okay so i posted on here awile ago and since then ive gotten a lot better. i can now get about 5-6 ft of air and can grab indys and whatnot. i can HS FS 180, all the basics ya know. now ive only been riding for like 3 months so does anybody think im ready for a HS backroll or tantrum? i feel confident after watching the book but i read some posts and i dunno. i take critisism well

ontrider · Ladies Man Joined: 30 Jul 2003 Posts: 16491 City: Russia

5-6 ft? You're flying then... go for it.

bobmurph · Outlaw Joined: 18 Apr 2006 Posts: 151 City: Atlanta

makar666, I'm at about the same experience level as you...been riding since May. All I can do are HS W2W w/ grabs & HS FS 180, TS W2W & TS W2W FS 180. I tried Tantrums for the first time on Sunday. After about 5 attempts I took it W2W and landed it, but lost the handle (wish I had video, but didn't realize my camera was dead until we got to the lake). People on the boat said it looked awesome. I've never riden w/ anyone who can do tantrums, so the only technique/tips I know is what I've learned from watching The Book and from these forums. I tried a few more times, but smacked the ish out of my nuts and decided to call it a day cuz it was getting late.

As for Backrolls, I tried a few about a month ago, but started working on my TS W2W instead of focusing on backrolls. I'm going to work on getting my Tantrums dialed before going back to backrolls just cuz a. Tantrums look cooler and b. the rotation and landing seem a hell of a lot easier.

Anyways, just go for it man. The falls don't hurt. After you get over the nervousness of the first attempt you'll just be pumped to stomp the trick.

BTW, the thing that got me to go for the Tantrum is in the The Book chapter about the Tantrum one of the guys said that if you have a good HS W2W and can do backflips on a tramp then you should be able to stomp the trick after 1 or 2 sets.

ontrider · Ladies Man Joined: 30 Jul 2003 Posts: 16491 City: Russia

bobmurph · Outlaw Joined: 18 Apr 2006 Posts: 151 City: Atlanta

Obviously any trick you try can result in a bad fall whether its a just a W2W jump, or a hoochie glide, and anything in between.

Let me put it this way then...tantrum falls aren't so exceptionally bad that you should be intimidated to try the trick.

liquid_force_balance06 · Criminal Joined: 06 Nov 2005 Posts: 60

I'm right there w/ u guys...pretty solid on all my basic stuff but im lookin to step it up a notch...i think i may try the tantrum later this afternoon after work...dont have anything to lose lol...gotta try it sometime...

bobmurph · Outlaw Joined: 18 Apr 2006 Posts: 151 City: Atlanta

makar666, since you have the Book...watch the Tantrum chapter, but put on the 2nd audio background (audio 2/4). The guy who does that audio has some good tips that the 1st audio doesn't mention.

makar666 · Newbie Joined: 16 Jul 2006 Posts: 3 City: lake monticello

yea ill have to watch the tantrum section. so far ive only got to HS and TS backroll. did you ever listen to that dude on 3 though? always thought he was pretty funny. anyway im goin out this week but on a pwc so i dunno if ill get anything in but surface tricks but im definately gonna go out and try either a backroll or tantrum now

raptorschild · Newbie Joined: 14 May 2006 Posts: 43 City: Pasco

I'm pretty much at the same level, although i cannot get 5-6 feet high....Thats up there man Very Happy

My prob with tantrums is that i always get pulled over off axis and face plant somehow? i can't even imagine how i get to that point....all i know is that the boat is pulling me out of the trick. How do i fight this?

Jensen · Posted: Jul 31, 2006 11:28 pm Post subject:

raptorschild, keep the handle close to you, sounds like your letting the boat extend your arm out.

PimpinD2 · Posted: Aug 01, 2006 1:31 am Post subject:

tantrum falls dont hurt??? Rolling Eyes

just be safe, mine was a freak accident i had my tantrums down solid taken em out into the flats and what not... who knows what happen just get the right technique in.

jpminter · Posted: Aug 01, 2006 4:33 am Post subject:

PimpinD2, what hospital was that? I can't quite read it. I was born in Orlando General Hospital.

PimpinD2 · Posted: Aug 01, 2006 5:06 am Post subject:

Florida Hospital in Orlando i dunno my roommate dad recommend it when he heard i snapped my femur they apparently had the best doctor for the job...

Mr Magoo · Newbie Joined: 14 Jul 2006 Posts: 12

I can pop around 3-4 feet off of a skiboat wake with no ballast, would your recommenrdation be to focus on a little more pop before trying a tantrum?