how do i get the most pop?

fil-it-up · Newbie Joined: 04 Jul 2006 Posts: 4

i have a nice board ( hyperlite state) and a great boat (yamaha RX230 ((with tower)) which gives me a monster wake. but i just cant seem to get the height that i need for most of the tricks im trying. any advise on how to get the pop i need???

QNev · Posted: Jul 04, 2006 12:01 pm Post subject:

Work on getting a nice progressive edge to build line tension because tension = pop. Use your board's curve to edge into the wake and right when you hit, straighten your knees.

It's all about technique.

Robert Harp · Guest

this very second, the top FIVE threads..... 4 out of them are about pop. dear god. just do a search, man!

Robert Harp · Guest

oh yeah, I HATE jacking threads without helping... so, alot of people say to get a spectra line. I'm getting one in a week or so, so I can't tell you personally how well they work. Qnev is right, it IS all about tecnique.

QNev · Posted: Jul 04, 2006 1:48 pm Post subject:

Robert Harp, spectra lines should only make a huge difference when you're hitting 6-10 feet every time. You'll be able to do mostly anything on a low-stretch poly rope so you don't need to fork out the cash right away for one unless you're rocking a ski line! Razz

Robert Harp · Guest

oh well; mammy said she'd buy one if I needed one, so it's free for me. all we have to do is pick a few leaves off of the money tree. Laughing

Rocket · Outlaw Joined: 11 Jun 2004 Posts: 127

fil-it-up, I have posted at length in the following thread all about how to get that height you want:

http://forums.wakeboarder.com/viewtopic.php?t=58012

Not being funny I just don't want to start typing all the same stuff again.

Good luck.

QNev · Posted: Jul 04, 2006 10:34 pm Post subject:

Rocket, awesome explanation! Believe it or not I never would have thought of thinking of the wake as a quarter pipe shape... just a little kicker Razz

fil-it-up · Newbie Joined: 04 Jul 2006 Posts: 4

thanks soo much everybody especialy rocket, after reading that thread i went out and got the most air i have ever gotten!!! i was soo close to landing a 360 mute grab but i caught my nose on the other side of the wake but i have never cleared the wake and landed in the flats until today Very Happy

thanks soo much

burntorange77 · Soul Rider Joined: 31 Jan 2006 Posts: 321 City: Kingwood

Your read Rocket,'s post and first time out you go from getting no air to 360 mute grabs?!?!? And the wakeboarding thread of the year goes to...

fil-it-up · Newbie Joined: 04 Jul 2006 Posts: 4

burntorange77 · Soul Rider Joined: 31 Jan 2006 Posts: 321 City: Kingwood

fil-it-up,
I'm just messin' witcha. Keep having fun...that's all that matters.

But seriously, IMHO Rocket's postings on progressive edging and line loading and all that instructional stuff are the best of anyone that posts on this site.

fergie23 · Posted: Jul 06, 2006 11:55 am Post subject:

I agree, Rocket's posts provide some great information!

GuitsBoy · Posted: Jul 12, 2006 1:21 pm Post subject:

Pop - Proper progressive edge, proper edging technique. Yes, bend your knees, but make sure your hips and belly are up forward. If theyre dragging behind, you wont get the pop youre looking for.

Spectra - I feel its pretty important. A stretchy line is gonna pull you forward in the air when the water isnt holding you back anymore. Unless the rope is dead center of gravity, its gonna pull you off balance.

beltxrider · Newbie Joined: 12 Jul 2006 Posts: 12 City: austin

one of the mistakes i was making when i first started was that i would get really far outside the wake and then just cut back as fast as i can. of course i was hocking speed, i would only get like two feet into the air. you need to let the boat pull you in a little then start leaning and then really cut. the key is to keep the tension on the rope, thats why you cant cut hard right away, it looses alot of tension in the rope. i hope this helps.

derek_lukasik · Newbie Joined: 09 Jun 2004 Posts: 44 City: Fort Collins

I've read this about progressive edge countless times. Every time, I go out and think, OK this time it's gonna work for me. The problem I have is keeping the board on edge up the wake. Whenever I've tried doing that, really weird things start happening. It seems to me like you have to get the board, or at least your hips, back underneath you at/before takeoff. Otherwise, you shoot up all out of control. Every video (Waketrix, Detention, Higher Ed) I've seen, it looks to me like they "flatten out" at the peak. So, is this everyone else's experience too? Or am I still lacking technique?

I get 5-6 feet of air consistently off of my boat Mobius LSV w/ 1500#. I rode behind a heavily loaded Nautique and was getting 6-7 feet pretty easily.