Deep water start, with board submerged

davros · Newbie Joined: 12 Jun 2006 Posts: 4

Hi, I am able to perform a deep water start in the normal manner, ie board floating in front of me with knees into chest etc., however I have seen many vids where the riders start with the board underwater, like they are standing upright in the water. I have tired to get into this position, but I can seem to get the board to go under! Any tips? It looks cool when they do it as they just seem to rise up and start boarding.

kind · Outlaw Joined: 03 May 2006 Posts: 118

well i know for me i start like you say but as im going forward my board sinks underwater and it appears its a "deep water" start...

Gsr2k6 · Newbie Joined: 01 Jun 2006 Posts: 16 City: Fredericksburg

I dont know about standing up completely underwater, but sometimes the board gets pushed under a bit while people get up and then planes to the top. It dosent for me and a few of my friends but a couple people ive seen it does, but there starting normal.

narxs70 · Criminal Joined: 05 Jun 2006 Posts: 69 City: Beaver Lake

my board pushes under a few inches and then slowly pulls my fat ass to the top. i would say it goes down like 4-7 inches under the water. not much but still looks like i just stand up out of the water untill you see the board.

drdubie · Outlaw Joined: 18 Dec 2005 Posts: 161 City: Lucedale, MS

I know what you are talking about. I have a friend that does it. got to put a lot of butt into it. I have the same problem and can not get my board to sink but it is doable.

wakehopper · Criminal Joined: 02 Jun 2006 Posts: 66 City: louisville

I start out with my board compleatly under it is so much easier, this is how I taught my friend to get up because he could not get up with the board floating.
Just pull the board under and stand strait up like you are standing on your platform. When you get the rope and are ready to take off just lean back a little and tell the driver to go. The driver will not even need to pull you very hard and you will be up. once you get it you will be surprised how easy it is.

thekpan · Outlaw Joined: 11 Jun 2006 Posts: 168 City: Dallas

i tried that one time and my dad was messing around so i feel over before he started going its hard to stand on your board underwater but it looks badass if you can you just appear haha oh and id imagine you would lean back a good amount

Ethan31 · Posted: Jun 12, 2006 4:18 pm Post subject:

This is the only way i get up, its like 20x easier.

Like other have said, but the board under you, stand up, yell HIT IT, ride out and...BANG! Crazy Eyes

kevthayer · Outlaw Joined: 12 Sep 2005 Posts: 231 City: Benicia

Ethan31, So you have the board directly underneath you and then the driver hits it. I dont see how that kind of drag will let you just pop up out of the water. Even if you lean back you still are fighting the force of water from the drive and momentum. Provide some details, I will try it this weekend.

TP83 · Addict Joined: 31 May 2006 Posts: 739 City: Woodside

try it u'll get it. i guess i always got the board under me when i jump off the boat and just go or i miss the rope and i just kinda ride it out i tend to stay ontop of the board. and its more comfortable.

Ethan31 · Posted: Jun 17, 2006 8:24 pm Post subject:

jmac2173 · Outlaw Joined: 11 Jul 2005 Posts: 145 City: h-town

Wake2face · Criminal Joined: 14 Jun 2006 Posts: 50 City: East Coast

Are you riding in salt water? that will make it a little harder to get the board under you. suck one knee to your chest and that is the side that goes under first. Once your board is under you...you should be sitting in a chair. Angle your board up so it will plane and you are good to go. Just takes a couple of tries and you will get it down.

kevthayer · Outlaw Joined: 12 Sep 2005 Posts: 231 City: Benicia

Tried it this weekend, it was easy for me but my newb's couldnt get it. I'm done giving advice on getting up, no one listens anyways! I guess they will figure it out after a hundred pulls.

hco · Posted: Jun 22, 2006 5:37 pm Post subject:

I think it would have the effect of the wedge on a boat, I think it would pull you down.

WattsBarRiDr · Outlaw Joined: 12 May 2006 Posts: 115 City: knoxville

getting up with the board under water i think is much easier.. the boat can just be in idle speed and all you do is push down and stand up but you won t get all the way up but most of the way.. but there has to be a driver-rider connection there.. but to keep the board under you is get in the water that way.. thats what i do.. also its easier to grab the rope when its going by and just pull yourself sop the board goes under

hco · Posted: Jun 22, 2006 5:53 pm Post subject:

I can get the board under neath me no problem, it's just that it doesn't seem logical. I personally think that if you cant get the board beneath you it is too big, or the person riding it is a bit weak.

Chad H · Posted: Jun 22, 2006 9:52 pm Post subject:

I have seen people get up so many ways its unreal. I was at a local competition, and a dude, just popped up. I don't have a clue what he did, but he was out of the water before the boat moved.

JeffR · Addict Joined: 07 Apr 2006 Posts: 608 City: Victoria, BC

davros, getting up is the most mundane aspect of wakeboarding, i think you should concentrate more progressing with your tricks

pet575 · Posted: Jun 23, 2006 11:54 am Post subject:

hco · Posted: Jun 23, 2006 9:06 pm Post subject:

Pet- you can kind of 'jump' when your feet are underwater, maybe he jumped a little and the driver gunned it simotaneuously (haha, butchered that spelling).

WattsBarRiDr · Outlaw Joined: 12 May 2006 Posts: 115 City: knoxville

no.. thats what i do... the boat is in idle speed and when you have the board under you like that just the way the pull is and everything you can just stand up.. but if the boat doesnt go you will sink back down.. its relly easy.. you just need enough balance to keep the board under you while you wait

ssmitty85 · Newbie Joined: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 13

I just tried this yesterday and found it was easier. but not worth the effort to get the board under and keep it under.

WattsBarRiDr · Outlaw Joined: 12 May 2006 Posts: 115 City: knoxville

here.... try holding on to the handle and letting the boat help pull the board under the water to get you in that position, but the boat needs to be pulling you at idle so you can do so

Ride DH · Outlaw Joined: 10 Jun 2006 Posts: 186

anybody get up with their back facing the boat, that's something i've always wanted to be able to do, i've only tried once or twice

WattsBarRiDr · Outlaw Joined: 12 May 2006 Posts: 115 City: knoxville

yes..ive seen it done before, but ive never tried, but what i like to do when i no people are watching me is get up with the board sticking stright up and down out of the water, just so their like.. that kid sucks and hes got a badass boat.. the i go out and do a backroll 2 revert from inside the wake out.. i just like messin with people like that tho

Goodhands · Outlaw Joined: 25 Aug 2005 Posts: 136 City: Murfreesboro

I have the bottom of the board almost completely flat on the water and as i hear my dad throw it into gear i push down and pull hard on the rope and its like I just pop up i have like maybe half a second of resistance or drag the board maybe is under 2 inches of water and comes right back up the only trouble i really have is popping up too fast and the rope slacks up and pops right outa my hands as the boat goes. anyone else do this? i tried the deep water start when i first started wakeboarding but i hated it always felt to akward.

tylerXXX · Newbie Joined: 04 Jul 2006 Posts: 2 City: jax

bend your knees and elbows, and when the drive hits it, lean back and pull your butt forward and stand up.
deep water is the only way i get up/ Smile

hope i helped

holdsworth · Posted: Jul 04, 2006 8:58 am Post subject:

i do a deep-water start every time. it's not hard to get it underneath you when you are just sitting there in the water. you just need to stick the board a little upright in the water and lean forward on the foot that is down, and then lean to the center to get the other end down. a deep-water start is a lot easier on your arms and knees when getting up too. the board will push itself up through the water, somewhat like an airplane wing/air, and you just have to hold on.

rockinguitar876 · Outlaw Joined: 07 Jul 2006 Posts: 129 City: h-town

it sounds hard

rockinguitar876 · Outlaw Joined: 07 Jul 2006 Posts: 129 City: h-town

oh yea one more thig n does anybody have a video of this iv never seen anybody do it before taht would help us all

ontrider · Ladies Man Joined: 30 Jul 2003 Posts: 16491 City: Russia

Starting like this is so much easier, especially on a wakeskate. All you need to do is lean back a bit and make sure your toes are up a bit so the board planes to the top and doesn't drag. Just try it, it's easy.