Help with a Whirlybird

[Provolone]

Hey Guys, Ive been on the water for a couple of seasons now with my best friend, but never seriously trying to get better at wakeboarding. Last summer I skated all summer and hardly ever touched a wakeboard. this summer I decided to wakeboard more and have taken it up pretty quick. We have been going out 4 or 5 times a week for about 4 weeks now and I have tantrums dialed in, landed a couple back rolls, and landed a raley 1st try, (but not second or third or any since then = pain), what i really want to work on next is a whirlybird but I cant seem to dial in the rotation. I can do a back flip with a twist on the ground but I feel like on the water its going to pull me into a raley position when I throw the handle over my shoulder so every time I end up doing a really awkward tantrum. Any tips?? Thanks, in advance, this is my first post btw.

[Craig-R]

depending on how far you cut out, you might want to shorten your approach so you aren't flying into the wake. taking a shorter approach should make the whirlybird more wake2wake and decrease the line tension. when you trip yourself to start a whirlybird, stand tall and lay yourself out, then bring your front shoulder tightly across your face to start the rotation. try and spot then landing and ride away. i hope this helped, try getting a video or pictures to help to show us the problem
your account name is tight by the way haha

[Wakebrad]

Try it on the tramp if you haven't yet. I struggled with the rotation for a while on the tramp but now can finally do it by just throwing a regular backflip and bringing my front shoulder across my face.

I still haven't attempted it on the water. Maybe late this summer or next I will.

[Rocket]

Provolone, can you do 3's on the water? If not you really need to be able to do these comfortably first.