Revoke the Oscar

OttoNP · Addict Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 848 City: MI

Anyone see this?

http://www.revoketheoscar.com/index.html

I got there from here, http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,85359,00.html.

Since I hate it when people quote things out of context and mislead people, I sent a form in to reject this guy's Oscar. It isn't just his views, it is the fact that he made an untrue documentary.

You can send a letter here

http://www.revoketheoscar.com/form.php

Nick
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Nor*Cal · Ladies Man Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 9479 City: Sac

I have issues with Michael Moore's films in the first place. He skews them to fit his own political agenda and in general does a poor job at providing a cogent arguement for his side.

Neognosis · Ladies Man Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 17617 City: Webster

Interesting. I've always thought that anyone who is very far to any side of an argument is a little strange.

However, and I can't resist, and I apologize for the sigh this is sure to get from you, Nick

WakeRyd · Outlaw Joined: 14 Jan 2003 Posts: 180 City: Richmond, VA

maybe we should drop a nuke on hollywood

OttoNP · Addict Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 848 City: MI

No, I'm kind of curious about it now. Regardless of anyone's political views, I think everyone would agree that documentaries should be factful. This is the issue that bothers me most about it.

I'm don't really care that much about it, just enough to send an electronic form that takes 10 seconds to fill out. I'd never make a webpage for it or even mail a letter....I hate mailing things!

Nick
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Neognosis · Ladies Man Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 17617 City: Webster

Sure, documentaries should be factful. The debate here is what is "factful?" I think I know what I would consider factful, but there is some grey area here. Like implying that Heston's speach took place at a time when it didn't. How strong is the implication? Does he actually say that the speach took place at a time that it didn't, or does he subtly imply it? How can you prove an implication? Sure, the documenatary probably does mislead but does it actually SAY that Heston's speach was at the time they are leading us to believe? But then again, does a documentary have to be absolutly objective? If the answer is "yes," and a filmaker can not inject his or her own opinion or philosophy, then "bowling" is clearly not an objective documentary.

mobius · Outlaw Joined: 25 Feb 2003 Posts: 119 City: Hilliard

I haven't seen the film but I do know a thing or two about American civilization and it's not all about what the schools assign you to read in their textbook. The history books don't tell you that early Americans, once they found out that the small pox they had brought over was killing the indians, gave blankets infested with the virus as gifts to some tribes. American (and most every other country's)history is traced with shameful moments that would be only natural for the country's history to wish to forget. Is Michael Moore anti-american for recognizing some of them.
I have seen his documentary about the GM's original factories in Flint, MI (his home town btw, if it were your home town, you'd be passionate about it too) closing down and the whole town driven into poverty and unemployment. In this film, he exposes the effects on a town of when GM's chairman closed 11 of their U.S. plants and built 11 new ones in Mexico where labor was 5 cents an houror whatever. Who's anti-American? The guy who recognizes some flaws in a capitalistic, free-enterprise society or the guy who gives thousands of American jobs to Mexico in order to save a buck.
I love Americanad am anything but anti-American, but what's wrong with recognizing a few faults and trying to make it a little better?

Neognosis · Ladies Man Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 17617 City: Webster

I saw the Flint Michigan documentary too. I liked it, but I hate big business, especially when they ruin people's lives and grow richer. So I wasn't very critical, choosing to take everything at face value because it was in line with what I thought at the time.

I don't think MM is anti-American any more than I think the Dixie Chicks or war protestors are anti-American.

I think the point of this post isn't necessarily to bash MM, but to point out that "bowling" isn't an accurate portrayal, and that some bending of the facts took place.

Leggester · Posted: Apr 28, 2003 12:26 pm Post subject:

"Some bending of facts" is like saying the Hindenberg had a minor glitch.

criminally_minded · Posted: Apr 28, 2003 4:41 pm Post subject:

That website seems like complete crud to me. The academy has never cared about who it gives awards out to before, why should it care now? Didn't 'Titanic' win best picture in 1997?

pppffffftt.

DRAGON88 · Posted: Apr 28, 2003 4:59 pm Post subject:

CM, beacuse titanic sucked!! Twisted Evil

criminally_minded · Posted: Apr 28, 2003 8:54 pm Post subject:

Thats my point bro, that movie sucked and yet it won 'Best Picture', not exactly an accurate title.....