lube to put in bindings

Evilgun · Newbie Joined: 17 Sep 2004 Posts: 29

I've heard that dish soap is a bit harsh on the binding materials, some one else told me its ok. Others have said to use shaving cream.

Any suggestions?

thanks for the help

Evilgun

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Swass · Guest

I've been using a 1 to 5 or so ratio of soap and water since I started this sport many moons ago. Soap does not hurt your bindings, and it's cheaper and more efficient than lube. It just takes a few seconds longer to rinse out the excess before your set. Shaving cream works, too.

jryoung · Ladies Man Joined: 19 Mar 2004 Posts: 7664 City: Man Jose

Evilgun, Overtime it could be harsh due to the solvents, but it is a very debatable subject.

However, that same dishsoap will unecessarily pollute waterways, you are already contributing enough petroleum waste why more?

So, get some biodegradable binding lube from your local shop and dilute it 50/50 with water to make it last longer. Or get a biodegradable dish soap that is vegetable based.

Bottom line, get something bioegradable.

vision135 · Posted: Jul 12, 2005 7:08 am Post subject:

I'll second soap and water too. It really doesnt hurt your bindings. If it does it would be over a couple of years and by that time you will need a new pair anyway. And you would probably have spent like $200 on lube. BTW Try the search button there have been plenty of threads on this

Swass · Guest

And the debate rages on.

general_mike · Newbie Joined: 12 Jul 2005 Posts: 14

jryoung youre kidding right

jryoung · Ladies Man Joined: 19 Mar 2004 Posts: 7664 City: Man Jose

general_mike, Kidding about what?

Beaver · Posted: Jul 12, 2005 7:14 am Post subject:

I use soap and water or shaveing cream but i like soap alot more.

joedirt00 · Posted: Jul 12, 2005 7:18 am Post subject:

gijoe2104 · Newbie Joined: 29 May 2003 Posts: 22 City: college station

yeah i hear watered down dish soap works...ratio's of like 4 or 5 to 1, but my buddy is freaked about his bindings so he always buys Newt Juice...that crap is expensive.

Hockey8720 · Criminal Joined: 07 Jun 2005 Posts: 83 City: San Jose

Kewlboarder27r · Soul Rider Joined: 16 Jun 2005 Posts: 497 City: Mound

get a gallon of pimp joos or towjam or newt juice then fab up a little hose with a sprayer kinda thing at the end thats what i did

Kewlboarder27r · Soul Rider Joined: 16 Jun 2005 Posts: 497 City: Mound

oh yea heres the linkhttp://www.buywake.com/catalog/index.lasso?cat=20

Evilgun · Newbie Joined: 17 Sep 2004 Posts: 29

sweet jesus thanks for the info, for real, i apologize for bringing this topic again next time i'll try the search.

peace

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bhamglassman · Soul Rider Joined: 21 Jun 2005 Posts: 338 City: Bellingham

anything except binding lube gets my hands slippery... cant hold on

Chuter · Newbie Joined: 18 Apr 2005 Posts: 27 City: London

I buy glycerin from the drug store and mix it 50/50 with water (I think even 1 part glycerin to 3 parts water would work), and put it in a push top spray bottle. Works great and rinses off pretty quick in the water. You don't need to use much. Costs like $4.00 a bottle and has lasted me probably 30 rides so for, and still half a bottle left, and from what i heard is neoprene safe. It is used in most personal lubricants.

nickdakoolkat · Posted: Jul 12, 2005 5:25 pm Post subject:

I just use Newt Juice, I average like 4 bottles a year thats a total of 40 bucks and it is very conveniant.

Van_boarder · Newbie Joined: 09 Mar 2006 Posts: 24 City: Nanaimo

Hi .. anyone ever use K-Y lube ???? hard to imagine it being able to do any damage to the bindings or the materials. Guess it can't hurt Rolling Eyes

boarditup · Addict Joined: 01 Dec 2003 Posts: 731 City: Allendale, MI

Soap does not contain petroleum. It does, however, contain nutrients that feed algae - that is the problem. Most soaps contain phosphates or sulfates. Some detergents will harm some glues. Soap can be hard to rinse out of bindings.

K-Y won't hurt anything.

Surfactants will not hurt anything.

jp14 · Criminal Joined: 17 Aug 2005 Posts: 62

Use SLIME

jryoung · Ladies Man Joined: 19 Mar 2004 Posts: 7664 City: Man Jose

swilly · Soul Rider Joined: 06 Sep 2005 Posts: 362 City: Eugene

Wow, what a bunch of cheap skates...........binding lube is less than $8/bottle. Buck Up and get some!

boarditup · Addict Joined: 01 Dec 2003 Posts: 731 City: Allendale, MI

I've checked my sources, again.

x vegan x · Addict Joined: 19 Jan 2004 Posts: 857 City: Minneapolis

I agree with jryoung and swilly. I won't let friends use soap or shaving cream in my lake.

Oh yeah, those of you who are saying actual binding lube is too expensive...How much do you use? The year I rode the most I didn't even finish off two bottles.

jryoung · Ladies Man Joined: 19 Mar 2004 Posts: 7664 City: Man Jose

K-dub · Ladies Man Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 14760

booo-YA!

boarditup · Addict Joined: 01 Dec 2003 Posts: 731 City: Allendale, MI

Put the Kool-aid down...step away. You will survive.

The only petroleum in the average dish soap or shampoo is the bottle. Look at the label and/or MSDS sheet.

If you really want to get into it, the dyes and fragrences are sometimes petroleum based.

Detergents are typically a base - sodium hydroxide, lye or similar.

Soaps many times use sodium laurelth sulfate. Much gentler.

Neither are petroleum based. The glycerine that is used to make it easier on the hands can be petroleum based, but can be distilled from many hydrocarbon sources.

Many of the newer formulas use more surfactants than detergents. Easier on the skin.

From the sources listed, the alcohol in beer would be considered petroleum. Just because some compound comes from a petroleum source and is synthetic, does not mean it is a petroleum. Sulfur is a by-product of petrochemical refining and it is not a petroleum.

Be careful citing marketing materials...You will notice the conspicous absence of specifc compound names. Non-scientific propoganda does not count.

The EPA and USCG does not define dish soap as a petroleum. It is not regulated on OPA 1990 or any similar petroleum statute.

My case is closed.

pilot_ryder · Posted: Mar 10, 2006 2:41 pm Post subject:

use anything that works but just dont harm the enviroment Smile

B_Fool · Soul Rider Joined: 15 Aug 2004 Posts: 373 City: Cen FLA

Or..
Buy the new Zeus' or new Watsons. You don't need it.

Probably don't need it in the Shane's either but they look like throwup mixed with poo.

wakeboardwillis · Soul Rider Joined: 22 Dec 2004 Posts: 275 City: Clare

[quote="B_Fool"]Probably don't need it in the Shane's either but they look like throwup mixed with poo.[/quote]

Nice

I like shampoo more than binding lube because it doesnt dissolve so it makes your feet easier to get back out of the bindings.

marcuskg · Posted: Mar 11, 2006 3:14 pm Post subject:

As boarditup said soaps contain phosphates/sulphates which lead to eutrophication, which basically means it takes all the oxygen from your lakes, feeds algae to the extent where your lakes has to be drain & cleaned and engourages other water based plants to grow.

Bottom line is just buy biodegradable lube.

Van_boarder · Newbie Joined: 09 Mar 2006 Posts: 24 City: Nanaimo

So K-Y lube is a good alternative .. i would buy some actuall binding lube .. however it cost to much by the time i can get it shipped to my location Confused

wakeboardwillis · Soul Rider Joined: 22 Dec 2004 Posts: 275 City: Clare

A little bit of soap wont kill your lake.