Deciding between the three 2006 closed-toe bindings

westcoast_canadian · Criminal Joined: 09 Aug 2005 Posts: 69 City: Penticton

So I got my 04 Hyperlite high backs replaced with new 05 3DS but now I see that I have grown out of size Large and so I am going to sell them and buy new bindings. Any good reviews about the fit of the new 3DS, Murrays, or the Shane boots? I like the look and stuff of the Shane but I need some reviews...

pooser · Wakeboarder.com Freak Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 4738

westcoast_canadian, why do you want close toe bindings? there are so many good non-closed toe boots. you are really limiting yourself especially if you havent tried any close toe boots on.

kyle · Guest

westcoast_canadian, I have been a loyal fan of the highbacks and 3DS bindings because i love the ankle support and i just got the 06 3DS's and have been riding them for a couple of weeks. All i have to say is that it is the best, and most comfortable binding i have ever worn. I highly reccomend them...they have the traditional ankle support the 3DS's provide with so much additional comfort. The neoprene material they use inside of the bindings is unbelievable. I hope you get them

westcoast_canadian · Criminal Joined: 09 Aug 2005 Posts: 69 City: Penticton

chavez · RIP MHL 04/25/1958 - 01/11/2006

pilot_ryder · Posted: Feb 27, 2006 9:05 pm Post subject:

if i had to choose between the two id say shane or 3ds

matt1808 · Wakeboarder.Commie Joined: 05 Feb 2004 Posts: 1981

from what I hear not experience- the hyperlite closed toes keep your feet warmer in cold water, but the toes of them are soft, so you aren't going to get more leverage. The Shanes have a stiffer toe, so they MIGHT give you a LITTLE more leverage, and they are also supposed to keep your feet warmer.

so if you are looking for leverage probably the Shanes, even though I doubt any difference would even be noticable for them. Not worth the price IMO.

I have heard people comment about all of them being comfortable though.

ramseyglastron · Soul Rider Joined: 28 Jul 2005 Posts: 335 City: Ruston

and they look freakin sweet. i would go with the shane

LoudonTN · Posted: Feb 27, 2006 9:43 pm Post subject:

I'm not gonna lie, I was completely opposed to the idea of closed toe...then I tried these on. Absolutely loved them, and I would have bought a pair last week but I don't have the bucks to spend.

pilot_ryder · Posted: Feb 27, 2006 9:48 pm Post subject:

i still dont like the boots look or think that the idea of the closed toe is very good but i can see the practicality of them sort of......

Sinkoumn · Posted: Feb 27, 2006 10:24 pm Post subject:

..till you put your entire force of a fall on the closed space where normally your toes should be able to freely (but painfully) can be thrusted through, thus crushing either your foot, or snapping a lower leg bone(s).

Not saying that it will happen to everyone, but I've seen it happen where someone's foots gets pushed/slid out the front of the binding from freak falls/landings - where's your foot going to go when it gets pushed into the toe-cup of the closed toe boot?

Sure snowboard, etc use boots, but seriously it's really not going to gain anything in terms of progression - have you ever heard anyone say "Man, I woulda had it, but just can't get enough heelside edge" who has proper edging technique? If you can edge as much as Lyman does with an open-toe, will there seriously be any gain with the soft toe of the HL's or the stiffer LF toe??

There is no disadvantage that I can think of offhand when it comes to oped-toe bindings - so if it ain't broke, why fix it? More-or-less it seems to be "fashion over function" IMO.

Just my opinion though, not trying to start any feuds, and don't mean to push it on anyone

Very Happy

jumalian · Ladies Man Joined: 12 Jan 2003 Posts: 7625 City: san diego

the most comfortable i tried on were the murrays...comfortable all around. the shane felt like it was resting on top of my toes. other than that, the rest of it was comfortable. as for the 3ds, the worst bindings i've tried on in years.

with that said, i'm stickin' w/ my lf teams until the lf watsons are available.

Sinkoumn · Posted: Feb 27, 2006 10:34 pm Post subject:

I heard that Jumalian with the new Watson's!

jason2454 · Outlaw Joined: 18 Feb 2005 Posts: 240 City: austin

x vegan x · Addict Joined: 19 Jan 2004 Posts: 857 City: Minneapolis

Sinkoumn, don't you think Shaun, Chad, Shane and Danny took enough falls in the prototype closed toe bindings to address those issues? When Chad was here I asked him why he went with the closed toe design and if it was his choice or if Hyp "suggested" it. He said he did it because it's so much more comfortable than traditional bindings and it was completely his choice. I can't comment on them since the XLs aren't yet available, but I have a hard time imagining anything can beat the Watsons when it comes to comfort.

Sinkoumn · Posted: Feb 28, 2006 8:01 am Post subject:

x vegan x, Yeah I totally agree with you on the fact that they probably addressed those issues, but other than blocking out the wind on your toes I really can't see how they will be anymore comfortable - i.e. you really can't add more cushion to a closed toe than you could to an open toe.

But hey, different strokes for different folks - I'm just stoked to go ride this season. I met and talked to Chad as well at the MPLS boat show, super laid back nice guy.

westcoast_canadian · Criminal Joined: 09 Aug 2005 Posts: 69 City: Penticton

Okay well I'm stil not decided cause not enough people have ridden them but

Don't knock them until you've tried them and don't try and think of super technical ideas about how they won't work. Is they were that dangerous Hype and LF wouldn't make them. I think some people are jealous of others getting new closed toe boots because YEAH they look frikkin sweet, but most ppl arent up to buying new bindings this season cause they cant afford it or don't need new bindings at all. Fact is, I need new bindings cause the old won't fit so I don't have a choice really, its not that i got all this money and so i want the sweetest stuff, just sayin.
I think that on those landings where your foot would normally stick through that your toes would sorta evenly distribute the force and same as the rest of the boot - the new added support in the bindings may prevent such kind of fall slippage altogether. Know what I'm gettin at??
We need to see more reviews and experience about these bindings before we decide whether they are good are not. nuff said

scott a · Ladies Man Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 9810

westcoast_canadian, if it helps, the Shanes are designed to fit snug on the top of the foot so that your foot DOESN'T slide forward. additionally there are more sizes to choose from meaning that you can find a boot that fits your foot better than a HL boot might.

matt1808 · Wakeboarder.Commie Joined: 05 Feb 2004 Posts: 1981

westcoast_canadian, If you find them comfortable and think they look good, then go ahead and get them. I wouldn't say too many people are jealous though, because they are really ugly, and there are othere bindings that will be just as comfortable, look better, and are cheaper.

You could probably find some Sub Rosa bindings for pretty cheap and they look just as good. I tried finding some on ebay for you, but I could only find size small. http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?cgiurl=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2Fws%2F&fkr=1&from=R8&satitle=sub+rosa+xtc&category0= Laughing

Stewie · Posted: Mar 01, 2006 1:29 pm Post subject:

matt1808, i've never heard of Sub Rosa bindings. Are they a new company? To be honest, those look to me kind of like bindings you would've found years ago, except they have a close toe.

matt1808 · Wakeboarder.Commie Joined: 05 Feb 2004 Posts: 1981

Stewie, They were made by Full Tilt in the late 90s. It was just a joke hence the Laughing

Sinkoumn · Posted: Mar 01, 2006 8:05 pm Post subject:

, those do have some serious 90's steez

westcoast_canadian · Criminal Joined: 09 Aug 2005 Posts: 69 City: Penticton

I like those eBay bindings actually. I am so gonna buy those

thane_dogg · Outlaw Joined: 24 Jan 2003 Posts: 187 City: Corona

go with the 3ds.

snowboardcorey · Posted: Mar 03, 2006 1:49 pm Post subject:

No binding fits as poorly as the Sub Rosa XTC! My feet hurt just thinking about those things. We bought a pair to ride during the really cold parts of the year and it wasnt even worth it.

CHiLi DaWg · Posted: Mar 03, 2006 1:51 pm Post subject:

thane_dogg · Outlaw Joined: 24 Jan 2003 Posts: 187 City: Corona

I think what plays a major part of your foor sliding forward is the soft footbed. The footbeds of wakeboard bindings are a lot softer than snowboard boots. I think the reason being is that wakeboard landings are consistently harder than what's encountered on a snowboard. My theory is that when you land, your foot bed compresses, that's what allows your foot to slide forward.

pooser · Wakeboarder.com Freak Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 4738

thane_dogg, the lack of socks and water probably add to the slipping.

Catch This Wake · Addict Joined: 03 Feb 2005 Posts: 590 City: Miami

No to mention some riders lube their bindings.

However wakeboots boots really can't be compared to snowboard because like CHiLi DaWg, they do not come as well sized as a snowboard boots.

Bill Y Bob · Posted: Mar 05, 2006 12:27 am Post subject:

westcoast_canadian, Why don't you choose the ones that feel most comfortable to you and give us a review. Someone has to be the first.

dmb · Posted: Mar 05, 2006 1:20 am Post subject:

I'd say Murrays, I tried on Chris O'Shea'sm and they ar eteh comfiest bindings I have ever worn, only thing that comes close were my old Sphynx's... The closed toe was good, comfier than having them out in the open, but I don't think my skill level is high enough to notice a performance change... I have heard from Chrisso that it does help though...