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Winterizing tige, where are the plugs?

 
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PostPosted: Nov 20, 2005 2:23 pm    Post subject: Winterizing tige, where are the plugs? Reply with quote

Hey all! I am working on winterizing my 2000 Tige 23v. Does anyone have a page hey can scan in that shows where the 5 drain plugs for the engine are?

Thanks!

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PostPosted: Nov 21, 2005 4:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

which engine is that?
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PostPosted: Nov 21, 2005 7:32 am    Post subject: lol Reply with quote

I can't believe I forgot that.

It's a Mecruiser 350 Mag MPI Fuel Injected engine. I was told there would be 5 blue plugs and I can easily see 2 of them.

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PostPosted: Nov 21, 2005 8:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Should be two in the block, two in the manifolds and possibly one on a J shaped bracket below the water pump.

Hate to ask, but are you sure you should be doing this yourself?

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PostPosted: Nov 21, 2005 10:55 am    Post subject: :-) Reply with quote

Sure I should be doing it myself. If a dealer charged about $20 then I might let them do it.

I got done with the oil change yesterday and cleaned the boat out. All that is left are the plugs and its good to go.

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PostPosted: Nov 21, 2005 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Sure I should be doing it myself. If a dealer charged about $20 then I might let them do it.

If a new engine costs 10000 a dealer may want to do it...

Apparently your area never freezes? If so why are you taking the plugs out at all? Either that or you're completely disregarding anti-freeze... this is your choice though...
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PostPosted: Nov 21, 2005 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just follow the manual EXACTLY, with the possible addition of anti-freeze, as some manuals, (indmar, for instance) don't tell you to put any in. Nobody knows why not.

YOu should also fog the engine.

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PostPosted: Nov 21, 2005 2:00 pm    Post subject: freezing Reply with quote

It freezes in Nashville, but I don't know what it takes to crack a block. It is doubtfull that it will stay below freezing for mroe than a day or two.

Last winter I drained the water out of my Vip (I/O) and changed the oil and the lower grease on the sterndrive. I also added some fuel stabilizer to the gas. It started up just fine the next spring.

I have read all that stuff about filling it up with antifreeze and fogging where the spark plugs are. Those type of things must be for people with boats farther north.

I'll post back tonight and let everyone know if its easy to locate the 5 drain plugs.

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PostPosted: Nov 21, 2005 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I have read all that stuff about filling it up with antifreeze and fogging where the spark plugs are. Those type of things must be for people with boats farther north.

Nope, It doesn't take more than one freeze with a full blck to crack it. Fogging's just regular maintnence. It takes 5 minutes and lubes and protects the cylinders and pistons. If you really don't feel like paying 10 for 2 or 3 gallons of anti-freeze and 6 for a can of fogging oil that's your choice but I will laugh my ass off if something goes wrong next season. I see at least 2 engines a year needing replacement because of stupid (cheap) owners who didn't think anti-freeze and fogging oil were "necessary". Who would have thought that the people who refused to spend $20 in November would have to pay $5000 in March?
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PostPosted: Nov 22, 2005 4:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the fogging of the carb/air intake and the cylinders has nothing to do with the danger of the water in the engine freezing...it's to protect them from rusting while your boat sits for the winter. Think about it...there's giong to be no oil running down those cylinder walls for 2-3 (or more) months...I don't care how tight the fit between the cylinder walls and the piston rings...it's going to rust.
Each inboard is just different enough that there isn't a general guideline for winterizing. If you don't have the manual for your engine, I would suggest you go order one from Mercruiser https://appcenter.mercurymarine.com/litreq/orderForm.jsp?type=mc.

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PostPosted: Dec 04, 2005 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was able to easily find and remove the 5 drain plugs from the boat once I found out where they were all located. No tools were required.

I also called a local boat shop and asked about their fogging procedures. They said that they run the boat and fire a good amount of Marvels Mystery Oil into the air intake. So I got a bottle of it and sprayed it in for a bout 10 minutes and then shut the boat off.

You can get the mavels oil at walmart or autozone.

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PostPosted: Dec 05, 2005 4:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pcm2a, very rarely do I read marine engine manufacturers suggest fogging the cylinders...however, every car manufacturer recommends you shoot some fogging oil in through the spark plug holes if you're going to store the car without running for a long period of time.
My take is that you're NEVER going to get an air tight seal on your piston rings, so chances that you're going to get moisture in there are high...and moisture = rust and rust in the cylinders = complete bottom end rebuild. There's little chance you're going to get that fogging oil to the cylinders through the intake. I would take the extra hour and remove the spark plugs, spray some oil up in there, then turn over the engine without starting it to make sure the oil gets to the top of the cylinders.
1 hour of time for more assurance that your engine is going to survive the winter seems like a small price to pay IMO.
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PostPosted: Dec 09, 2005 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My dad is one of those cheap asses, but he did always drain the block. I am much more mechanically inclined and not at all cheap, and he now fills the block on our I/O with antifreeze by simply connecting the antifreeze container to the "earmuffs" with a hose and running the engine until a little antifreeze comes out.

As far as fogging the engine, it makes sense to do it for your boat in the long run. However, my dad bought his first boat brand new in 77. Never fogged it. Still has good compression and power. Now if it were my boat I would definately fog it because I know that very few cylinders are sealed when the engine is off. Most of them are open at the valves leading directly out the exhaust/intake, thus letting moisture into the combustion chamber. Rust develops very quickly in engine blocks but unless it sits for a very very long time, it will stay rather light and be removed after the first crank in the spring.

Better be safe than sorry. I say my dad is lucky that his 77 still runs great without any rebuilds. Drain your block or use the engine to pump it full of antifreeze. The antifreeze will also protect your waterlines from rusting and corroding. Also, fog your engine!

- Rick -

ps, interesting about the marvel mystery oil. I know the stuff can be used in a lot of different ways, but never thought about that!
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