Tower vs. No Tower

rastamastakontiki · Newbie Joined: 07 Jul 2005 Posts: 32 City: Orlando, Tampa

what if your boat has a crappy wake. I have a regal 1800 (not like it was up to me when you live with your parent at 15 years) and it makes flat wake with no edge to jump. Im thinking a tower with a bungee style towrope would let me get some air? Right now you cant get any air at all. It snaps extremely quickly. Almost had a concussion from trying to get air on the damn thing.

intotheflats · Posted: Oct 03, 2005 7:33 pm Post subject:

ballywho · Wakeboarder.Commie Joined: 05 Feb 2005 Posts: 1725

ooooh, catapult style... HELL YEAH!!! but I want vids. Most of us ride with non-strech... I'm gonna try with some surgical tubing... double crow mobe here I come!!! Laughing

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jason2454 · Outlaw Joined: 18 Feb 2005 Posts: 240 City: austin

havent u guys seen the catapult attachment thing for towers?? i guess its supposed to "spring" you into the air...

intotheflats · Posted: Oct 04, 2005 4:22 pm Post subject:

jason2454, how many people have you seen actually use one. Its a gimmick. You can't buy talent no matter how much you are willing to pay

karkid · Soul Rider Joined: 10 Sep 2004 Posts: 327 City: Tempe

my problem is, my boat is too underpowered to weight it down. i can't even fill the seats, it won't plane out wiht 6 people in the boat.

intotheflats · Posted: Oct 04, 2005 8:16 pm Post subject:

karkid, A tower won't help you. A tower does add a little hang time but does not get you any higher on your jumps. If your not getting any height, why try to increase hang time?

cq13 · Newbie Joined: 02 Sep 2004 Posts: 23 City: Indian Trail

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classik5onit · Criminal Joined: 07 Jun 2005 Posts: 87 City: Arnold

tower and boat wake really makes a diff in rider. i ride behind a 18 ft sea ray with no tower and the wake is no more than a waverunner. rode behind my friends wakesetter with tower and full ballast and weight. i cant w2w or do anything behind my sea ray. got behind the wakesetter and was throwin backrolls by the end of the day. the tower helps you edge out harder and farther into the flats and helps you keep your air.

finkle · Wakeboarder.com Freak Joined: 22 Sep 2003 Posts: 4067

so many of you are absolutely retarded.

intotheflats is correct in every way on this thread.

Jim M · Wakeboarder.com Freak Joined: 17 Jan 2003 Posts: 2933

I thought of an excellent way to help explain this, although I dont think the point is going to get across to everyone no matter how it is worded..

A tower is going to help with the second half of a wake jump- from the peak of your jump all the way to riding out your landing. It helps stabilize you at the peak and give you a natural pull, it helps things to feel more floaty on the way down, and it helps your landing by giving you a comfortable tug on impact.

ballywho · Wakeboarder.Commie Joined: 05 Feb 2005 Posts: 1725

moomba010 · Criminal Joined: 09 May 2005 Posts: 66

Hey man.. you really don't need a tower or pylon. Yes, they are both helpful but not a necessity. Here is a pick of my going behind out 2000 moomba outback ls and 500lbs of sand in the boat, with a regular rope... lol i am cheap.

moomba010 · Criminal Joined: 09 May 2005 Posts: 66

Hey man.. you really don't need a tower or pylon. Yes, they are both helpful but not a necessity. Here is a pick of my going behind out 2000 moomba outback ls and 500lbs of sand in the boat, with a regular rope... lol i am cheap.

|}addyFatSac|{s · Newbie Joined: 28 Sep 2005 Posts: 7 City: Saint Petersburg

Try getting a new prop with a diff pitch, you can generate more power at slower speeds, but watch your rpm's dont get out of operating range. Get an educated mechanic to help you with it, GL

intotheflats · Posted: Oct 21, 2005 8:37 pm Post subject:

thanks kswiss, I was beginning to think I might be wrong with all the people on here saying a tower will turn them into a Bonifay. Rolling Eyes

Spend your money on a camp if you want to ride better, not a tower

intotheflats · Posted: Oct 21, 2005 8:45 pm Post subject:

pbfoot · Criminal Joined: 28 Jun 2005 Posts: 67 City: Grand Rapids

towers give more hang time but u can still do ur tricks without one. i ride the same with or without one.

HO-rider · Outlaw Joined: 08 Nov 2005 Posts: 102 City: MeXiCo!!

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I DONT HAVE A TOWER AND I THOUGHT THAT I WONT BE ABLE TO DO ANYTHING WITHOUT A TOWERR... NOW I AM SO HAPPY Very Happy

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HO-rider · Outlaw Joined: 08 Nov 2005 Posts: 102 City: MeXiCo!!

well.. some people dont say so.. but i wish i can do tricks without one.. i think it has to be a lot of your style technique and all that things come people arent able to jump and that without a tower but maybe some can... i hope i will be of that persons ajajaj Laughing

HO-rider · Outlaw Joined: 08 Nov 2005 Posts: 102 City: MeXiCo!!

this week end i was i a malibu vlx.. omg yep there is a difference!! Crying or Very sad

but yes i think its the boat and his wake not the tower...HOPE SO

rastamastakontiki · Newbie Joined: 07 Jul 2005 Posts: 32 City: Orlando, Tampa

Ive only been boarding since the start of the summer but you cannot possibly tell me that it doesnt help to have the tow rope coming from above you. Hopefully by next summer ill have a tower. I swear I am comfortable out there. I ride forever without wiping out but whenever i try to get air the boat snaps me down and i am certain that it would NOT do this if the rope was facing up. Its just a fact. It wouldnt be able to snap you down. Crazy Eyes

intotheflats · Posted: Nov 19, 2005 10:08 am Post subject:

rastamastakontiki, You are right, without a tower the boat does pull you down, if your 6 feet in the air. But if you can't do a certain trick without a tower, you won't be able to do that trick with a tower either. I'll agree that the wake makes a huge difference, but a tower doesn't.

Technique > Tower

77Ricky77 · Newbie Joined: 12 Jan 2006 Posts: 9 City: Riddz

Alright i ridfe behind a ramsey 202 with about a 1 to 2 foot wake. No high pole or plyon. I can still pretty easly clear the wake and have landed a couple tantrums(backflip). I can do and hold grabs for a bit but i agree a high pole would help. I belibe that the only thing apart from "float" that a high pole helps is with getting out of the water because it pulls you up and forward.

thedocta · Criminal Joined: 01 Aug 2005 Posts: 93 City: Kalamazoo

towers do help...plain and simple. I'll explain: the forces acting on you in the air behind a boat with no tower are gravity, your upward force (due to wake), and the force due to the downward pull of the rope. If you take away the downward force of the rope by adding a pylon/tower thats one less downward force acting on you which leaves you with a more unbalanced force...upwards force is much greater than downwards allowing you to go higher leading to more time in the air also. This isn't even hard guys its 9th grade stuff.

I also have ridden behind my friends ski boat with no weight, just a tower and I could almost land a tantrum where as behind my boat with no weight or tower I dont come close.

intotheflats · Posted: Feb 15, 2006 11:28 am Post subject:

thedocta, Have you even read this thread. You are saying the same stuff that most the other people said.

thedocta · Criminal Joined: 01 Aug 2005 Posts: 93 City: Kalamazoo

First off you can't argue when the bottom of all yoru posts say: "Fighting on an internet forum is like the special olympics, even if you win your still retarded." Secondly did you miss the part where I said there was no weight at all in the ski boat? Thinking back I definately had a bigger wake on my boat because we adjusted the trim just right and added sand. I never said I couldn't do it without a tower I still did it with no tower, pylon, or wieght, the tower jus made it EASIER.

--Sharp-- · Outlaw Joined: 28 Feb 2006 Posts: 113 City: Two-mountains

intotheflats · Posted: Mar 07, 2006 8:45 pm Post subject:

--Sharp--, have you read any of this thread? If you have I would recommend rereading it because your saying the same incorrect crap that everyone else has said.